On 10/8/19 11:46 AM, James Cassell wrote: > On Tue, Oct 8, 2019, at 11:37 AM, Rich Bowen wrote: >> Last week a group of Red Hat engineers, management, and members of the >> CentOS and Fedora communities, met at the Red Hat office in Boston to >> discuss how to implement CentOS Stream and formally kick-off the >> project, which, as you are aware, was announced the week before. Many >> details that were omitted in the original announcement were debated, and >> we came to an agreement on much, but not all, of these things. >> > > Great! Was this a public or invite-only meeting? (I didn't see anything in my mail archives announcing it.) > This meeting was an internal RH meeting to sort out some of the internal-to-redhat pieces, but we're working from a policy of being as open and transparent about it as possible. > >> First of all, I want to ask that you be patient with us. Changing the >> way that the hundreds of people on the RHEL team do their work is going >> to take time. Developing the tooling to make everything work perfectly, >> and in an automated fashion, is also going to take time. And some of the >> things that were proposed to the Board will end up changing, based on >> what doesn’t work, and on the feedback from you, the CentOS community, >> as well as Red Hat’s customers and partners. >> >> A central point of discussion was ensuring transparency. We want to move >> the RHEL development more into the public, and CentOS Stream is the >> cornerstone of that. >> >> CentOS Stream will be a rolling preview of what is happening in RHEL >> development. This will allow you to experiment with the next version >> before it releases, and ensure that what you are working on will work, >> day one, when the next minor release of RHEL is announced. >> > > The increased transparency is greatly appreciated and is especially reassuring in light of the IBM acquisition. > Glad to hear. > >> SIGs, too, will be able to build and test against this preview, so that >> when the next minor release comes out, there will be no surprises. >> >> We are working on a FAQ to answer what we anticipate will be at the top >> of everyone’s mind, but I’ll address a few questions that we’re already >> receiving. >> >> Q: How many streams will there be? Will there be a stream for 8 and >> another for 9? >> A: When the development for RHEL 9 begins, the stream for 8 will end. We >> plan to have a one-year overlap, to allow for transition from one stream >> to the other. But we do not intend to keep the 8 Stream going for the >> entirety of the RHEL 8 support window. >> >> Q: How can I contribute changes? >> A: This is still being worked on, and we ask for your patience as we >> work towards this. This is indeed a goal, but getting the stream itself >> working perfectly must happen first. Meanwhile, we’re working with the >> RHEL engineering team on a process where contributions from the >> community can be considered as part of their regular development >> workflow. The last thing we want is to set an expectation that we cannot >> meet, so we want to ensure that we have a workable process before we >> start asking you for contributions. >> >> We encourage your further questions, and look forward to figuring out >> with you how to make CentOS Stream successful for all constituents. >> > > I look forward to the further details as they become available. We'll be open about what we're working on, but I do want to point out that for some of this will only be "we're sorting out internal RH policy" or whatever. -- Jim Perrin The CentOS Project | http://www.centos.org twitter: @BitIntegrity | GPG Key: FA09AD77