On Wed, 11 Sep 2019, Gordon Messmer wrote: > On 9/10/19 11:51 AM, victor mason wrote: >> This is a prime example of the sort of stupid that people usually >> encounter when asking about updates. The kind of idiot > > > Speaking for myself only: Please don't be rude to other list members.? This > behavior is unnecessary, unhelpful, and unwelcome. > > >> When you have a ton of people depending on you you have a responsibility >> to them. > > > Frankly, that is not true.? Your need does not instill responsibility in > others simply because they are able to meet it. Where you have a need, *you* > have a responsibility to meet it.? If you need software, you can meet that > responsibility by paying for the software, or by participating in its > development (for example). > > How you meet that need is entirely your decision.? However, making demands of > people who offer their labor for free creates a toxic community.? Please > don't do that.? When you make exchanges in life, you are free to negotiate > the terms of that exchange before it is made.? When you receive something > without making an exchange in return, the thing you've received is a gift, > and nothing more. Well said!! I fail to understand how people think that someone who volunteers their time and energy to provide something for free obligates them to provide anything for anyone else. As has been said many times before, If what is provided for free meets your needs then use it, if not find something else that does. It might not be free but not all things in life are. :-) I use Centos because it WORKSFORME. When that is no longer the case I will find something that does. Paid or not. That is my responsibility and no one elses. Regards, -- Tom me at tdiehl.org