On 9/25/19 12:51 AM, Jim Perrin wrote: > > > On 9/24/19 2:55 PM, Paul Graydon wrote: >> Honestly, I read the announcement on the RedHat site and got even more >> confused >> (https://www.redhat.com/en/blog/transforming-development-experience-within-centos), >> partly because there were extra products there I wasn't aware of. I >> think I have my head wrapped around it now. >> >> * To borrow someone else's attempt at understanding, is this along the >> right lines? >> >> Currently: fedora --> RHEL --> centos, > > This is accurate for how major releases are developed, but during that > fedora->RHEL bit, it's currently not public. > > For the current minor releases (the .1, .2, etc) there isn't really an > 'upstream' for rhel to pull from, or a place for people to publicly see > what's coming. > >> New: fedora --> centos stream --> RHEL --> centos >> >> You're describing CentOS Stream as parallel to CentOS in the blog post >> linked above, but then from the rest of it it looks like it's being used >> to feed stable features in to RHEL, which would naturally then make >> their way in to CentOS, same as things do currently. >> > > They are two separate distributions. Currently CentOS Stream and CentOS > Linux differ only slightly, but this will change in the future. > >> >> * "It is a single, continuous stream of content with updates several >> times daily, encompassing the latest and greatest from the RHEL codebase." >> >> What level of changes/updates are we talking about? More up to date >> applications or libraries, or more of just the same kinds of updates as >> we'd expect to see between, say, 8.0 and 8.1 (typically more minor >> upgrades of libraries and applications.) > > > A rough analogy is "When RHEL 8.1 is out, CentOS Stream content would be > the development of what should become 8.2". I am happy to learn I understood the process when I first read the announcement, even though I was totaly blindsided with appearance of CentOS Stream :-) > > >> >> >> Finally, how does this relate to RedHat Application Streams, or does it >> not at all? If it doesn't relate, that feels like a bit of a branding >> overload of a term that may unintentionally cause some confusion. > > The branding is admittedly a little confusing. CentOS Stream is a > rolling development branch for RHEL. AppStreams are a conceptual piece > of RHEL, CentOS and CentOS Stream. Where they are in their lifecycle > differs based on which one you're running. > > Does that help explain it a bit, or did I just muddle it up further for you? > >> >> >> Paul >> >> >> On 9/24/19 05:45, Lamar Owen wrote: >>> So, now that Earth has caught up to the TARDIS...... >>> >>> >>> Would someone from the CentOS team like to explain CentOS Streams? I >>> saw an article at The NewStack yesterday that gave some info; oddly >>> enough that article is giving a 404 right now, but Google still has it >>> in cache. But Johnny's statement a few days ago, and then this >>> announcement, makes this new CentOS Streams business look >>> interesting. I see a new directory on the mirrors called 8-stream >>> with interesting content...... >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> CentOS-devel mailing list >>> CentOS-devel at centos.org >>> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__lists.centos.org_mailman_listinfo_centos-2Ddevel&d=DwIFAw&c=RoP1YumCXCgaWHvlZYR8PZh8Bv7qIrMUB65eapI_JnE&r=ZscEEr9nw3LSVvXoPtSeEPOB99CD0eOeziaYFoP_AX8&m=07caNEbqshwTKcSkDB_568J1aQsjr3ENSSFE9Qm6Nzg&s=t2dmO_iYQTzbCMmh2_HuG_PiE3Lzz17__wbR58x5O2E&e= >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> CentOS-devel mailing list >> CentOS-devel at centos.org >> https://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-devel > -- Ljubomir Ljubojevic (Love is in the Air) PL Computers Serbia, Europe StarOS, Mikrotik and CentOS/RHEL/Linux consultant