On Tue, Aug 11, 2020 at 7:39 AM Johnny Hughes <johnny at centos.org> wrote: > > On 8/10/20 3:41 PM, Troy Dawson wrote: > > On Mon, Aug 10, 2020 at 1:29 PM Orion Poplawski <orion at nwra.com> wrote: > >> > >> Is there anything I can do to help out with missing -devel packages in CentOS > >> 8? I'm waiting for a number of them, e.g.: > >> > >> https://bugs.centos.org/view.php?id=17401 > >> > > Hi Orion, > > It helps if it is linked to this ticket. > > https://bugs.centos.org/view.php?id=16492 > > Although nothing has happened there for 5 months. > > > > To be clear, there is two definitions of "missing -devel packages" > > > > There are the ones that have never shown up anywhere (I'm still > > waiting on 4 I believe) > > > > And then there are the ones that originally showed up, and we were > > able to build from them in EPEL8, but then when RHEL 8.2 came along, > > the EPEL8 packages are still the old ones from RHEL 8.1. > > https://pagure.io/releng/issue/9580 > > And while we would love to just publish these .. we can not. > > There are competing goals here. Bit for bit like RHEL .. RHEL does not > have the SRPMS, we should not. > > Someone wants the SRPMS .. so they want us to like RHEL .. except when > they don't. All our build system and where we pull info assumes we need > to be the same. Introducing things were we are not is HARD .. > especially in el8 as we HAVE to use koji and mbox and pungi to build. > Introducing differences into compose configurations for pungi for > releases is HARD .. it has follow on impacts .. and we need a system in > place to make it continue to work when we get updated compose files in > the future. > > We have people working on this, but it is just not a priority compared > to getting things released on time and builds working properly. It is > not just a simple .. push a couple packages somewhere. > You already have them published, that work is done. http://mirror.centos.org/centos/8/Devel/x86_64/os/Packages/ http://mirror.centos.org/centos/8.2.2004/Devel/x86_64/os/Packages/ It doesn't say it in the ticket, but from conversations the rsync area that was setup for EPEL8 to sync that over, something happened and they can't sync anymore. I don't know the details. It's possible that the syncing is already fixed, and they just need to restart and/or update their script. Troy