On 8/11/20 8:38 AM, Johnny Hughes wrote: > On 8/10/20 3:41 PM, Troy Dawson wrote: >> On Mon, Aug 10, 2020 at 1:29 PM Orion Poplawski <orion at nwra.com> wrote: >>> >>> Is there anything I can do to help out with missing -devel packages in CentOS >>> 8? I'm waiting for a number of them, e.g.: >>> >>> https://bugs.centos.org/view.php?id=17401 >>> >> Hi Orion, >> It helps if it is linked to this ticket. >> https://bugs.centos.org/view.php?id=16492 >> Although nothing has happened there for 5 months. >> >> To be clear, there is two definitions of "missing -devel packages" >> >> There are the ones that have never shown up anywhere (I'm still >> waiting on 4 I believe) >> >> And then there are the ones that originally showed up, and we were >> able to build from them in EPEL8, but then when RHEL 8.2 came along, >> the EPEL8 packages are still the old ones from RHEL 8.1. >> https://pagure.io/releng/issue/9580 > > And while we would love to just publish these .. we can not. > > There are competing goals here. Bit for bit like RHEL .. RHEL does not > have the SRPMS, we should not. > > Someone wants the SRPMS .. so they want us to like RHEL .. except when > they don't. All our build system and where we pull info assumes we need > to be the same. Introducing things were we are not is HARD .. > especially in el8 as we HAVE to use koji and mbox and pungi to build. > Introducing differences into compose configurations for pungi for > releases is HARD .. it has follow on impacts .. and we need a system in > place to make it continue to work when we get updated compose files in > the future. > > We have people working on this, but it is just not a priority compared > to getting things released on time and builds working properly. It is > not just a simple .. push a couple packages somewhere. I understand that it's not the top priority, and there is work involved. But it did seem like a process was defined so that it wasn't such a crazy thing to do. But maybe it is. As Troy noted, a number of packages have been published, including libuv-devel from the above report. I'll make some notes in those bug reports. But others are still missing, including for example libtar-devel. Thanks again for your work, and maybe someday others will be able to help you. -- Orion Poplawski Manager of NWRA Technical Systems 720-772-5637 NWRA, Boulder/CoRA Office FAX: 303-415-9702 3380 Mitchell Lane orion at nwra.com Boulder, CO 80301 https://www.nwra.com/ -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: smime.p7s Type: application/pkcs7-signature Size: 3799 bytes Desc: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature URL: <http://lists.centos.org/pipermail/centos-devel/attachments/20200811/923ea603/attachment-0006.p7s>