On Tue, Dec 08, 2020 at 09:06:44AM -0500, Rich Bowen wrote: > If you are using CentOS Linux 8 in a production environment, and are > concerned that CentOS Stream will not meet your needs, we encourage > you to contact Red Hat about options. This sounds like a money grab by Red Hat and it makes the project really look bad. Even if Red Hat claims to be giving away "free" licenses for people who can't afford RHEL, that license can be taken away at a moments notice. I'm interested to see how they plan on providing these options, and what kind of limitations they place on them. I'm certain it won't be as open as it was under previous CentOS management. I get it, we've benefited from a lot of work from Red Hat over the years, and haven't paid for it. That bill has come due. Don't be surprised if there is an exodus of people who just want to run production code, and aren't interested in being a beta tester. Because that's what Stream is, regardless of all the posts you see saying otherwise. It's not what Red Hat is selling their customers for production use. There are plenty of completely free production Linux distros out there that people can use. People were using CentOS because RHEL has a good reputation for stability and so software and hardware vendors would use it as a target. Since CentOS was rebuilt from RHEL sources, you could be fairly confidant that you could use those vendors. Now that CentOS Stream is veering into the wild, will the same vendors test their products on it? Who knows? Most of the vendors I've worked with barely try to test anything on Linux, and adding another distro to the pile is a very low priority. To the CentOS team, good luck. I expect this change in core philosophy is going to be very confusing to your end users. -- Jonathan Billings <billings at negate.org>