Am 09.12.20 um 04:18 schrieb Mike McGrath: > > > On Tue, Dec 8, 2020 at 7:30 PM Leon Fauster via CentOS-devel > <centos-devel at centos.org <mailto:centos-devel at centos.org>> wrote: > > Am 08.12.20 um 23:22 schrieb Matthew Miller: > > On Tue, Dec 08, 2020 at 12:44:36PM -0600, Robert G. (Doc) Savage > via CentOS wrote: > >>> CentOS 8's future is not looking bright. Recently deployed > CentOS8 on my > >>> production workload and now hearing this. What do other folks think > >>> about this? > >> Speaking only for myself, I am ready to give up on CentOS (and > Red Hat) > >> entirely. Fedora meets all my clients' needs with none of the chaos. > > > > I definitely appreciate the vote of confidence in Fedora! You're > not alone > > in using Fedora in a lot of serious ways. > > > > However, I really encourage everyone to give this a chance. This is > > (post-Fedora) RHEL development opening up in a new way, and CentOS is > > central to it. That's a good place to be! > > > > > > Its important to distinguish two aspects here in this whole discussion. > > Its great that RH opens their "firewalls". CentOS Stream is great > for that but what actually pissed the people off is the termination > of CentOS8 Linux. So all arguments for C8S doesn't touch the problem > that people have now. And no - C8S is not a valid substitution. Its > valid for a different usage scenario that is of course worth to get a > chance but the mentioned problem don't get addressed ... > > > I agree the timing of this isn't great but keep in mind the vast > majority of CentOS users are on CentOS Linux 7, they have the full > lifecycle they expected. > > The relatively fewer that are on CentOS Linux 8 have some decisions to > make. The end of 2021 is sooner than they were expecting *but* there is > a fully available upgrade path from CentOS Linux 8 to CentOS Stream 8 > (IE: not a reinstall), and that will take them to 2024. That's half of > the 10 years they might have expected, but it should let them give > Stream a try and see if it is for them or not. If "Stream" is the base for the next RHEL8.x where are the updates until 2029 coming from, when CentOS Stream 8 will be shutdown at 2024? -- Leon