Le jeudi 10 décembre 2020 à 12:39 +0000, Dan Seguin a écrit : > Who exactly do you expect will contribute to RHEL from the CENTOS > community? > > Why would *anybody* spend their own time, even their IT reputations > rolling any of this mess? I would, even if I wasn't paid by RH. My job involve being a sysadmin, and so I run Centos servers in production, along some Fedora, some Debian and others, for myself and for work. Each time I want to get a small new feature or fixes, not being able to easily contribute to RHEL (and so Centos) despites working at RH is a problem. I have a few examples: a few years ago, I bought a Yubikey for myself. I want to use it on my RHEL 7 (my laptop) as a smartcard, but it was not supported. I searched, found the fix is 2 lines in the usb-ids database. I opened a bug in may 2016, I provided the patch, went to complain on internal IRC to the right people, who escalated that in meeting, and it still took ~6 months: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1157226 I knew what to do, because I had the same problem in 2014: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1157226 where it took 1 year to get the fix in RHEL 7 (and so Centos 7). On Fedora (or others faster distros) where there is a documented way to contribute, I would have waited a few weeks at best, maybe more in worst case (depending how persistant I am into getting a fix). With streams, I hope that at least, I wouldn't need to wait on "next minor release", given the delay it had. And keep in mind that while I did that using my profesionnal relationship, I did it for myself, and others Centos users did benefit from it. Another example, SELinux. When I see a unconfined service (last one, knot, for my personal DNS server, but also synapse or gitea, personal matrix and personal forge), I try to write a policy, and while on it, get it usable for others. Usually, I have not much trouble to get things in the Fedora package. I have no hope to get it backported to RHEL (and so Centos), but at least, with Stream, I would have a path to try to get it done. Again, I would write the policy for me anyway, so why shouldn't I try to share it with others ? And I do not think I am the only one with a ethos of sharing bugfixes with the rest of the community. The whole free software movement is built on that. -- Michael Scherer / He/Il/Er/Él Sysadmin, Community Infrastructure -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 836 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part URL: <http://lists.centos.org/pipermail/centos-devel/attachments/20201211/e9b5e0c4/attachment-0005.sig>