[CentOS-devel] Before You Get Mad About The CentOS Stream Change, Think About…

Tue Dec 15 16:23:03 UTC 2020
sankarshan <sankarshan.mukhopadhyay at gmail.com>

I am going to snip a lot of this note and respond to a specific part.

On Tue, 15 Dec 2020 at 21:33, Ljubomir Ljubojevic <centos at plnet.rs> wrote:
>
> It looks like "fatherlinux" chose to not allow my comment. I see he
> allowed some other comments and replied to some other, but mine is
> missing, so I will post it here:
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[snipped]

> To conclude:
> When RH employed CentOS Core team in 2014 they promised that nothing
> will change for "CentOS Linux". According to Johnny Hughes, member of
> the CentOS board this change of direction, discontinuing of "CentOS
> Linux" happened my RH liaison stating that changes will be made how ever
> rest of the CentOS board votes (with implication concluded by me that
> those against will lose  RH employee status). Board was initially
> against, but then they capitulated in front of Red Hat blackmails and
> decided "to vote for changes unanimously". Red Had flexed it's muscles,
> members of CentOS Board will be forever remembered as exchanging
> reputation and respect for income in Red Hat, and users decided such
> tactics deserve abandonment of Red Hat.
> Some 30% of people commenting negatively say they will move to
> Debian/Ubuntu regardless of any positive points Red Hat employees try to
> make, at least 60% will stay on CentOS Linux 7 until EOL but will switch
> CentOS Linux 8 to Springdale, Oracle, or Rocky or Lenix  in next 12
> months, and big non-for-profit institutions will wait to see what will
> happen with "free RHEL licensees" for them. Around 70-80% of sysadmins
> and CentOS users  commenting will never, ever, recommend RHEL to anyone.
> I have to rebase my server from CentOS 6, and I am going with Springdale
> for now, and will start learning Debian. I will soon resign as admin in
> Facebook group (Many think that FB group is owned by me) and I was
> already asked by some FB users if I plan to create new EL group they can
> switch to. Only reason to delay is to try to persuade members and
> visitors that they do not have to rush with switching to Debian/Ubuntu,
> that there is still time.
>
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The RHT - CentOS bits happened in 2014. I am certain that the
statements from the CentOS team were made with the best intentions and
were not meant to masquerade anything. Holding the entire phenomenal
CentOS crew (all of whom have spent long years building this community
with love) to a statement made way back in 2014 seems and is a bit
unfair. Realities change and it would be reasonably obvious that
strategic plans determined CentOS-as-upstream-of-RHEL to be the need
of the hour rather than continue with the focus of CentOS as it has
been.

Please pause for a moment and think about the individuals being
denigrated on the lists. These are not the evil, malicious and
villainous characters they are being demonized as. For what it is
worth we've likely met them in person, shared a joke or a beverage. I
doubt they like the outcome any more than we in the community do.

Being kind, being respectful and being an ally does not take a lot.
Let's be that while we find how best to preserve our interests,
businesses and energies.