[CentOS-devel] Christmas gift from SantaOS.

Wed Dec 16 12:20:02 UTC 2020
Stephen John Smoogen <smooge at gmail.com>

On Wed, 16 Dec 2020 at 06:46, aleksander.baranowski via CentOS-devel <
centos-devel at centos.org> wrote:

> Hi,
> When it comes to modules the situation is clusterfu**.
> That reason why making EL8 took us so long. I'm quite sure that without
> internal knowledge of modules (that only Fedora uses - and documentation
> sucks) amount of reverse engineering is tremendous. The best place to
> start is https://pagure.io/fm-orchestrator.
> RHEL sources based/CentOS clones will also have different platform
> string, that will make the whole system reinstall itself xDDDDDDD.
> That's a reason why migrating to these solutions will be a pain in the
> neck.
> Going back to src.rpms. If you are looking for src.rpms best bet is
> using original RHEL src.rpms, these are readily available when you have
> even minimal subscription. It's the much safer bet for long term system.
> Imagine the following:
> - RHEL made errata for package X version n release m.
> - CentOS stream have package X version n release m+10.
> Which one will be available on git.centos.org?
Both will be available on git.centos.org. All of the source code from
RHEL-7 onward has been pushed to there... including buildroot only source

> Using git.centos.org is a bad idea for next gen rebuilds IMO.
I am going to strongly recommend against this for 3 reasons:
1. It is a contractual problem to do this. [AKA Get a lawyer. I am not one
and I am not going to try to argue it anymore than I am going to argue Rust
language syntax I don't know. I will just say that two wrongs do not make a
2. The src.rpms are not debranded. That is extra work a rebuilder has to
do. The git source seems to be debranded by Red Hat.
3. Not all the src.rpms may be shipped with the developer etc. Red Hat
Enterprise Linux 8 is not self-hosting. You need extra packages to build
things.. the source for those should be on git.centos.org

That is all I am going to say on this.

Stephen J Smoogen.
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