On 12/16/20 6:08 PM, Mike McGrath wrote: > ... > It makes a lot of sense that people would be upset about this. We > very much should have set better expectations at the launch of CentOS > 8 but at that point no specific dates around CentOS8 had been decided > other than to release it. The 2019 statement appears partly to have been intended to alleviate concerns about CentOS Linux 8 going away. It seems to have done that job too well. > The RHEL9 bootstrap process has already started with Fedora ELN .. Ok, good to know, thanks for the pointer. To those who might not have found it, read https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/eln/ > ... > People being upset about the CentOS Stream 8 dates makes a ton of > sense to me. But people thinking that we'd be shipping CentOS Linux > 1,500 in the year 2984 doesn't. Taking someone's words about our > intentions at some time or plans at some time, and then expanding them > across an infinite timeline is just not how anything works. In my particular case I had no expectations for CentOS > 8. > ...The September 24, 2019 > statement, in my opinion, is what primarily set the stage for this > backlash you see today. > > > Again, that was accurate at that time. If I could go back in time not > do a CentOS Linux 8 release, I would have. But it wasn't in the cards. A real pity. I just saw the official joint statement come down from Fermilab about this; they basically said that they would say something more concrete during Q1 2021. And thanks for the links and reminders for the centos-questions at redhat.com email address. Time to write an email, I guess.