[CentOS-devel] Before You Get Mad About The CentOS Stream Change, Think About…

Thu Dec 17 16:20:55 UTC 2020
Lamar Owen <lowen at pari.edu>

On 12/16/20 6:08 PM, Mike McGrath wrote:
> ...
> It makes a lot of sense that people would be upset about this.  We 
> very much should have set better expectations at the launch of CentOS 
> 8 but at that point no specific dates around CentOS8 had been decided 
> other than to release it.

The 2019 statement appears partly to have been intended to alleviate 
concerns about CentOS Linux 8 going away.  It seems to have done that 
job too well.

> The RHEL9 bootstrap process has already started with Fedora ELN ..

Ok, good to know, thanks for the pointer.  To those who might not have 
found it, read https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/eln/

> ...
> People being upset about the CentOS Stream 8 dates makes a ton of 
> sense to me.  But people thinking that we'd be shipping CentOS Linux 
> 1,500 in the year 2984 doesn't. Taking someone's words about our 
> intentions at some time or plans at some time, and then expanding them 
> across an infinite timeline is just not how anything works.

In my particular case I had no expectations for CentOS > 8.

>     ...The September 24, 2019
>     statement, in my opinion, is what primarily set the stage for this
>     backlash you see today.
> Again, that was accurate at that time.  If I could go back in time not 
> do a CentOS Linux 8 release, I would have. But it wasn't in the cards.

A real pity.

I just saw the official joint statement come down from Fermilab about 
this; they basically said that they would say something more concrete 
during Q1 2021.

And thanks for the links and reminders for the 
centos-questions at redhat.com email address.  Time to write an email, I guess.