Le 26/12/2020 à 17:49, Mike McGrath a écrit : > > On Sat, Dec 26, 2020 at 10:11 AM Jean-Marc Liger > <jean-marc.liger at parisdescartes.fr > <mailto:jean-marc.liger at parisdescartes.fr>> wrote: > > > Le 21/12/2020 à 21:27, Jean-Marc Liger a écrit : >> >> Le 21/12/2020 à 18:31, Mike McGrath a écrit : >> >>> On Mon, Dec 21, 2020 at 11:13 AM John Crisp >>> <jcrisp at safeandsoundit.co.uk >>> <mailto:jcrisp at safeandsoundit.co.uk>> wrote: >>> >>> >>> That's the 'Extinguish' bit. Comes after 'Embrace' and 'Extend'. >>> >>> >>> Uhhh, there is no Extinguish in Open Source. That's the entire >>> point. We embraced, we extended. If others want to carry on >>> the torch they are more than welcome to do so. >>> >>> -Mike >> >> Again, a fair way of doing things would have been, Hey guys since >> we Red Hat have bought CentOS, making a downstream release of >> RHEL is just a nonsense, It costs us time and money we can save. >> So let's reverse the process and make RHEL a downstream of >> CentOS, it will now be Fedora ELN - > CentOS Stream - > CentOS >> Linux - > RHEL. >> >> There would have been no downstream build sponsored by Red Hat, >> CentOS Linux would have kill other clones this way, as it already >> did for Scientific Linux 8, the CentOS Community would have been >> happy to help to get a better RHEL in the Stream process, and Red >> Hat folks could have put all the value of their brand and >> specificities in their final products, backed with a strong >> ecosystem they could have controlled. >> >> I eared you no answer about this proposal, could you tell me why >> if it's not all about grabbing more money from the CentOS Community ? >> >> -Jean-Marc >> > I ask for a fourth time this proposal which still remains > unanswered, but as we say in French, "who doesn't say word > consents",therefore it is obviously a question of recovering money > from the CentOS community with the subscriptionsRed Hat coming soon. > > Jean-Marc > > How many operating systems do you think we need to be building. In > your little text diagram above, its not clear to me what usefulness > CentOS Linux is to RHEL. I understand why you'd want it (free RHEL). > Why do you think we should produce it? What usefulness is it to us? To fullfil the CentOS initial Goal thought to produce a RHEL clone. > > We don't want to "recover money" from the CentOS community just like > our other communities. But as a business, since you're not providing > Red Hat with profit (none of our communities are), what are you > providing that would result in continued sponsorship of a downstream > rebuild? > > -Mike > My little text diagram is simple to understand. It is no an downstream rebuild, but an upstream pre-build, with more stability than Stream and actually the missing piece of motivation to help Stream to become stronger. Jean-Marc -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.centos.org/pipermail/centos-devel/attachments/20201226/8e0d48a9/attachment-0005.html>