On 12/26/20 11:48 PM, Mike McGrath wrote: > I suspect the very trust that you all were putting in Red Hat to > continue to produce CentOS Linux as though it were actually a 10-year > enterprise-grade distribution for production was part of the problem > here. To further demonstrate that problem, many of the replies I've > seen look as though people did their risk assessments with "we're > relying on Red Hat for our OS" instead of "We're relying on a community > for our OS." I'd imagine some of you are having very awkward > conversations with your management chain about this. No one using > Fedora or WildFly thinks that way. Considering Red Hat bought entire CentOS project in total secret, or should we say bribed CentOS dev group with jobs, you do not get to say "why should we continue to build it" without admitting that Red Hat's goal was to kill it all along but needed to control the clone building process first. How was it said? Embrace, Engulf, Extinguish? Either say both or neither. -- Ljubomir Ljubojevic (Love is in the Air) PL Computers Serbia, Europe StarOS, Mikrotik and CentOS/RHEL/Linux consultant