On 26.12.2020 23:49, Mike McGrath wrote: > On Sat, Dec 26, 2020 at 10:11 AM Jean-Marc Liger > <jean-marc.liger at parisdescartes.fr > <mailto:jean-marc.liger at parisdescartes.fr>> wrote: >> There would have been no downstream build sponsored by Red Hat, >> CentOS Linux would have kill other clones this way, as it already >> did for Scientific Linux 8, the CentOS Community would have been >> happy to help to get a better RHEL in the Stream process, and Red >> Hat folks could have put all the value of their brand and >> specificities in their final products, backed with a strong >> ecosystem they could have controlled. >> >> I eared you no answer about this proposal, could you tell me why >> if it's not all about grabbing more money from the CentOS Community ? >> >> -Jean-Marc >> > I ask for a fourth time this proposal which still remains > unanswered, but as we say in French, "who doesn't say word > consents",therefore it is obviously a question of recovering money > from the CentOS community with the subscriptionsRed Hat coming soon. > > Jean-Marc > > How many operating systems do you think we need to be building. In your > little text diagram above, its not clear to me what usefulness CentOS > Linux is to RHEL. I understand why you'd want it (free RHEL). Why do > you think we should produce it? What usefulness is it to us? That brings an obvious question: have RH obtained CentOS stuff with the only actual purpose to shut down "free RHEL"? > We don't want to "recover money" from the CentOS community just like our > other communities. But as a business, since you're not providing Red > Hat with profit (none of our communities are), what are you providing > that would result in continued sponsorship of a downstream rebuild? How nice. Does advertising RH paid services and gaining you new customers count for one? I suspect I am not the only one who did that for years. (of course I won't do that any more and will personally apologize to those unlucky who've subscribed to RH services) -- Sincerely, Konstantin Boyandin system administrator (ProWide Labs Ltd. - IPHost Network Monitor)