Le 27/12/2020 à 13:08, Ljubomir Ljubojevic a écrit : > On 12/27/20 12:29 PM, Alexander Bokovoy wrote: >> On pe, 25 joulu 2020, Ljubomir Ljubojevic wrote: >>> On 12/24/20 2:37 PM, Neal Gompa wrote: >>>> In the strictest sense, it obviously is not. But in a very real >>>> practical sense, it absolutely is. Aside from the kernel issues (which >>>> I firmly believe are solvable), people are generally not going to >>>> notice a difference between CentOS Linux 8 and CentOS Stream 8. >>>> >>>> My CentOS Linux 8 boxes were replaced with CentOS Stream 8 back in the >>>> spring because it was strictly better for production *and* >>>> development. I've been in the process of opportunistically switching >>>> our build targets from CentOS Linux 8 to CentOS Stream 8 most of the >>>> year. With the retirement of CentOS Linux 8, it now becomes more of a >>>> priority, but it was already going to happen. >>>> >>> As I understood it, Stream is not in full swing yet, there is no >>> active/daily contribution from RHEL team? >> "Active/daily" contribution is pretty much a seasonal thing unrelated to >> the actual processes. Right now majority of engineers contributing to >> RHEL 8 sources are on their holidays and end of year vacation time. You >> can notice these "activity dives" also in Fedora Project annual reports by >> Matthew Miller, like >> https://mattdm.org/fedora/2020nest/StateOfFedora2020.pdf. >> This is a well-known phenomenon in Fedora community. > Johnny Hughes wrote that Stream is not yet ready, that certain parts are > not in place. I did not bother to retain specifics since I will not be > using it at any time in the future, I only need to know enough to notify > or answer on Facebook where I am admin. > > <snip> > > >>> What will happen to your system when/if there is new kernel change every >>> few days? How much "punishment" can your system handle safely? >> You certainly control when you can and want upgrade your deployment >> systems. It has nothing to do with the cadence of updates coming into a >> distribution. >> >> I find this fixation on the kernel updates is skewing things a lot. >> Kernel, certainly, is important, but it is not the thing that is RHEL or >> CentOS distribution, alone. >> > It is crucial issue if you install any kernel module not provided by Red > Hat (3rd party drivers). If some software that you might or might not > use brakes, you can mess around your working system and fix it. > But if after dnf update your system crashes or network is down, and it > is bare metal system, they you are f**ked, you need to reach the system > manually (I install on regular PC hardware without ILO) and reverse to > prior kernel. Even if I am quick about it, it will be very embarrassing > for me in front of my clients (small in number as they are) whose work > will stop for that period, so I will not be caught dead using CentOS > Stream, I do not need the potential headache, embarrassment. Move to Oracle UEK kernels should be the solution, they use the same updated version for EL7 and EL8. Jean-Marc *Jean-Marc LIGER* Chef du Service Informatique UFR de Médecine de Paris Centre 15 rue de l'Ecole de médecine 75270 PARIS CEDEX 06 +33 (0)1 53 10 46 82 <https://u-paris.fr/> <https://www.facebook.com/univparis/> <https://www.instagram.com/univ_paris/?hl=fr> <https://twitter.com/Univ_Paris> <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC5WhlXe1I_eRCtEx7cj3ZKg?fbclid=IwAR1vwGdU3uTudr9xzGkiXoNdg0tlasAeDl2lkkTP-cyEP_snhPMfdU_Oc9w> -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.centos.org/pipermail/centos-devel/attachments/20201227/f6165ce8/attachment-0005.html>