[CentOS-devel] Dealing with unshipped -devel packages in CentOS Linux 8 and CentOS Stream

On 3/13/20 12:01 PM, Alfredo Moralejo Alonso wrote:
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>
> On Fri, Mar 13, 2020 at 5:34 PM Brian Stinson
> <bstinson at centosproject.org <mailto:bstinson at centosproject.org>> wrote:
>
>     Hi Folks,
>
>     We were exploring ways to deal with devel packages that are unshipped
>     upstream in RHEL 8, but which are required at build-time in SIG
>     deliverables, or for software that you might want to build at home.
>
>     We just pushed the Devel variant to the mirrors, as soon the mirror
>     network coalesces, you can find this repository at:
>     http://mirror.centos.org/centos/8/Devel, OR
>     http://mirror.centos.org/centos/8-Stream/Devel
>
>     We are currently in the process of including a .repo file (disabled by
>     default) in centos-release. Look for an update to that soon.
>
>     Special thanks to James Antill, who did most of the compose work
>     on this
>     variant.
>
>     Here are some questions that you might have, and some answers:
>
>     ## What is the Devel repo for?
>
>     We envision using the Devel repo for packages that are unshipped in
>     CentOS Linux/CentOS Stream but needed for build-time dependencies of
>     other packages. Devel is *NOT* meant to satisfy runtime
>     dependencies or
>     for long term use on general purpose machines.
>
>     ## How do I use the Devel repo?
>
>     We will soon ship repo files in centos-release-8.1-1.1911.0.9.el8 and
>     centos-release-stream-8.1-1.1911.0.9.el8, once those are installed you
>     can enable the Devel repo by running:
>
>     dnf config-manager --enable Devel (on CentOS Linux), OR
>
>     dnf config-manager --enable Stream-Devel (on CentOS Stream)
>
>     Reminder: this repo is *not* for general purpose use, and is only
>     recommended for buildtime activities only.
>
>
> For CBS builds, will this repo be added as an external repo in all c8
> build targets or should we request it in bugs.centos.org?
> <http://bugs.centos.org>?
>  
>
>     ## How do I ask for an unshipped package to be included in Devel?
>
>     Please file a bug on bugs.centos.org? <http://bugs.centos.org>
>     Project: CentOS-8
>     Category: _unreleased_devel_packages
>
>     Give us a short description of the -devel package that you need, and a
>     description of what the -devel package is used to build.
>
>     ## Why do you need to know what the -devel packages are used for?
>
>     We ask for that information to better understand the impact of not
>     including them in a normal release artifact. This is an information
>     gathering opportunity and is *not* for making inclusion/rejection
>     judgements for Devel
>
>     ## Why isn't my package included yet?
>
>     We began with a small subset of requests to test our compose and
>     delivery configs. We plan to close out bugs that are fixed with this
>     push shortly, and then process the rest of the queue. Stay tuned
>     to your
>     open bugs if you have them.
>
>     ## Why not include *all* unshipped components in Devel?
>
>     One reason is that we want to gather impact information that we can
>     communicate upstream.
>
>     More importantly, Red Hat has decided that these unshipped
>     packages are
>     lower in bugfix/update priority compared to the ones that made it into
>     RHEL. In very limited cases, we may not see updates to such packages
>     through the usual source-drop process, we need to maintain a list so
>     that the CentOS team can monitor those packages more closely.
>
>
>
>     Happy Building!
>
>     --
>
>     Brian Stinson
>
>
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I have an outstanding action to make sure this gets into CBS properly.

--Brian