On 3/31/20 1:52 PM, Julien Pivotto wrote: > On 31 Mar 12:46, Johnny Hughes wrote: >> On 3/31/20 11:56 AM, Karsten Wade wrote: >>> On 3/26/20 8:32 AM, Johnny Hughes wrote: >>>> >>>> I think CentOS Linux and the CentOS Project has developed a brand .. >>>> people know what it is, and I, for one, do not want it to change. >>> >>> Considering that the nature of the universe is change and that logos >>> change all the time, what are the conditions you figure are ripe for the >>> CentOS Project to change _this_ logo? >>> >>> The designers articulated a number of reasons for the changes they propose. >>>> I am fine with approving a new, Single color Logo with a more standard >>>> font as an additive brand, but I like the logo that we have had for the >>>> last 17 years .. well, once we go rid of the pink text :). >>>> >>>> I don't want to prevent all change .. but I do think legacy is also >>>> important. >>> >>> I'd like to check that everyone read the discussion between the >>> designers here, because this comment from Johnny and the responses from >>> John Tatt and John Dennison are confusing. >>> >>> tl;dr >>> https://blog.centos.org/2020/01/updating-the-centos-logo-and-visual-style/ >>> >>> full discussion: >>> https://git.centos.org/centos/Artwork/issue/1 >>> >>> The monochrome logo is not additive, it is an evolution of the current >>> logo. The current proposal is not to have a different appearing logo in >>> monochrome than the one in color. They are different logos, resulting in >>> different branding, etc. >>> >>> I don't see how having two different logos solves any problems, but I do >>> see how it creates a whole lot of new problems. >>> >>> It is important that feedback here be more than "I don't like it, I >>> don't want change, what we have works fine". >>> >>> We need to hear: >>> >>> * What don't you like about the proposed logo in comparison to the >>> existing logo? >> >> It is not the logo that I helped design 17 years ago. >> >>> >>> * Is there more about not wanting change than not wanting change? >> >> Yes .. we have a brand that is recognized the world over. Double digit >> percentages of all the servers on the internet and double digit >> percentages of all the super computers in the world run CentOS Linux. >> >> I don't think we need to confuse the brand. >> >> You brought this to this list to discuss it and give our opinions. I >> like the current, well known, what everyone on the street knows branding. >> >> I think we lose a lot by changing that branding and I don't want to >> change it. >> >> That is my opinion .. I get to have my opinion. >> >> If you want to change the logo, change the logo .. but you asked for >> opinions. > > First of all I am surprised that Johnny was not included in the previous > discussions. > > I do not like that the new logo is blue as that color does not really > have a personality. It is overrepresented in branding in general IMO, and > it is for this reason not really something you can recognize from far > away. > > Regarding the colors, I don't like the current logo color and I think > that if the argument to change is that it can not be embroided, I am all > for having the proposed logo to be embroided e.g. on one color but > keeping the current color (or modernizing them) for everything web > related. Our screens don't have that embroided issue. > > On the other hand, I like the curve style, even if it looks a bit more > like toys and less like entreprise. I would be fine adding that logo .. and one of every one monochrome of the primary logo colors .. and one that is rounded with the colors. I don't mind the new shapes. For those who don't know the CentOS history .. we started out as a sub-project of cAos Linux .. and the logo is shaped like it is because of the symbol for caos (chaos): https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Symbol_of_Chaos So .. I am a bit hesitant to change it, because to me it means something. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 195 bytes Desc: OpenPGP digital signature URL: <http://lists.centos.org/pipermail/centos-devel/attachments/20200331/9c5e2b8d/attachment-0007.sig>