[CentOS-devel] Missing build dependencies in CentOS 8 repositories

Tue Apr 13 15:36:37 UTC 2021
Johnny Hughes <johnny at centos.org>

On 4/13/21 10:34 AM, Johnny Hughes wrote:
> On 4/13/21 10:23 AM, Simon Matter wrote:
>>> On Tue, Apr 13, 2021 at 4:07 AM František Šumšal <frantisek at sumsal.cz>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hello!
>>>>
>>>> I'm not sure if this has been already answered somewhere on this list,
>>>> but
>>>> I'm curious why the CentOS 8 repositories are missing certain build
>>>> dependencies
>>>> (although they're present in RHEL's internal repositories). This makes
>>>> rebuilding
>>>> some of the CentOS 8 packages a bit painful.
>>>>
>>>> For example, let's try to rebuild util-linux:
>>>>
>>>> ```
>>>> $ podman run -it --rm centos:8
>>>> # rm -f /etc/yum.repos.d/CentOS-Linux-Media.repo
>>>> # dnf -y install dnf-plugins-core
>>>> ...
>>>> # dnf --refresh --enablerepo \* -y builddep util-linux
>>>> Failed to set locale, defaulting to C.UTF-8
>>>> CentOS Linux 8 - AppStream                                    10 kB/s |
>>>> 4.3 kB     00:00
>>>> CentOS Linux 8 - BaseOS                                       23 kB/s |
>>>> 3.9 kB     00:00
>>>> CentOS Linux 8 - ContinuousRelease                           5.3 kB/s |
>>>> 3.0 kB     00:00
>>>> CentOS Linux 8 - Debuginfo                                   1.6 MB/s |
>>>> 27 MB     00:16
>>>> CentOS Linux 8 - Devel WARNING! FOR BUILDROOT USE ONLY!       18 kB/s |
>>>> 13 kB     00:00
>>>> CentOS Linux 8 - Extras                                      8.2 kB/s |
>>>> 1.5 kB     00:00
>>>> CentOS Linux 8 - FastTrack                                   933  B/s |
>>>> 257  B     00:00
>>>> CentOS Linux 8 - HighAvailability                            741 kB/s |
>>>> 504 kB     00:00
>>>> CentOS Linux 8 - Plus                                        807 kB/s |
>>>> 596 kB     00:00
>>>> CentOS Linux 8 - PowerTools                                  2.1 MB/s |
>>>> 2.0 MB     00:00
>>>> CentOS Linux 8 - BaseOS - Source                             120 kB/s |
>>>> 384 kB     00:03
>>>> CentOS Linux 8 - AppStream - Source                          271 kB/s |
>>>> 991 kB     00:03
>>>> CentOS Linux 8 - Extras - Source                             2.2 kB/s |
>>>> 7.8 kB     00:03
>>>> CentOS Linux 8 - Plus - Source                               1.7 kB/s |
>>>> 5.0 kB     00:03
>>>> Package systemd-239-41.el8_3.x86_64 is already installed.
>>>> No matching package to install: 'libuser-devel'
>>>> Not all dependencies satisfied
>>>> Error: Some packages could not be found.
>>>> ```
>>>>
>>>> Oh well, looks like we have to rebuild libuser as well:
>>>>
>>>> ```
>>>> # dnf --enablerepo \* -y builddep libuser
>>>> Failed to set locale, defaulting to C.UTF-8
>>>> Last metadata expiration check: 0:02:14 ago on Tue Apr 13 10:36:39 2021.
>>>> No matching package to install: 'openldap-servers'
>>>> Not all dependencies satisfied
>>>> Error: Some packages could not be found.
>>>> ```
>>>>
>>>> And apparently openldap, too.
>>>>
>>>> I noticed that Davide from FB already come across this issue and filed
>>>> it
>>>> in RHBZ[0], where it was
>>>> confirmed that the dependency is indeed present only in the internal
>>>> RHEL
>>>> buildroot repository -
>>>> and after a quick test they still are:
>>>>
>>>> # dnf --enablerepo rhel-buildroot search libuser-devel
>>>> ...
>>>> libuser-devel.i686 : Files needed for developing applications which use
>>>> libuser
>>>> libuser-devel.x86_64 : Files needed for developing applications which
>>>> use
>>>> libuser
>>>>
>>>> Is there any reason why they aren't shipped in some CentOS repository or
>>>> was there any progress
>>>> to make them available?
>>>>
>>>> Thank you!
>>>>
>>>> Frantisek
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> [0] https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1868430
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Frantisek Sumsal
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>>>
>>>
>>> Yes, this has been discussed before on the list.  And it's a rather sore
>>> point.
>>>
>>> There are several -devel packages that are available on INTERNAL RHEL
>>> repositories, but they are never released externally.
>>> Thus any RHEL customers are not able to use them to build things that
>>> depend on those libraries, such as your example, libuser.
>>>
>>> CentOS is a clone (warts and all) of RHEL, and thus doesn't have those
>>> -devel packages available either.
>>>
>>> It's been this way since the release of RHEL8.
>>>
>>> Has there been any progress?
>>> Yes, a bit.
>>> First, check to make sure there is a bugzilla open for whichever missing
>>> -devel package you need.
>>> Next, wait several months/years to see the debate go back and forth on the
>>> bug.  It's possible it might make it in.
>>>
>>> Sorry for the sad tone, it's just a battle I've been waging since before
>>> RHEL8 was released.  I've given up hope for them being released on RHEL8,
>>> though occasionally I am happily surprised.  One of the packages I've been
>>> fighting for will be released in RHEL 8.4 ... but that's just 1 out of 4.
>>>
>>> Troy
>>
>> Just wondering here, what's the license of libuser or why can the devel
>> package not be released?
>>
> 
> It is not a license issue .. it a RHEL choice.  And a policy.  Red Hat
> does not maintain these packages audited in a "released" state for the
> binaries.  The do release the source code for these packages and one can
> build it themselves if they want the packages.
> 
> The issue is, these are for linking and not for release.
> 
> (I have nothing to do with there decisions :D )
> 

I also can obviously not type in english .. those of you who know me are
not surprised !!!