[CentOS-devel] [EXT] Re: Missing build dependencies in CentOS 8 repositories

Tue Apr 13 15:41:03 UTC 2021
Carl George <carl at redhat.com>

The current state is described here:

https://wiki.centos.org/FAQ/CentOS8/UnshippedPackages

Stream Devel is empty intentionally because of the workflow that was
decided upon, which is described in that wiki page.

On Tue, Apr 13, 2021 at 10:38 AM Peter Georg
<peter.georg at physik.uni-regensburg.de> wrote:
>
> On 13/04/2021 16.59, Johnny Hughes wrote:
> > On 4/13/21 8:45 AM, Troy Dawson wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >> On Tue, Apr 13, 2021 at 4:07 AM František Šumšal <frantisek at sumsal.cz
> >> <mailto:frantisek at sumsal.cz>> wrote:
> >>
> >>      Hello!
> >>
> >>      I'm not sure if this has been already answered somewhere on this
> >>      list, but
> >>      I'm curious why the CentOS 8 repositories are missing certain build
> >>      dependencies
> >>      (although they're present in RHEL's internal repositories). This
> >>      makes rebuilding
> >>      some of the CentOS 8 packages a bit painful.
> >>
> >>      For example, let's try to rebuild util-linux:
> >>
> >>      ```
> >>      $ podman run -it --rm centos:8
> >>      # rm -f /etc/yum.repos.d/CentOS-Linux-Media.repo
> >>      # dnf -y install dnf-plugins-core
> >>      ...
> >>      # dnf --refresh --enablerepo \* -y builddep util-linux
> >>      Failed to set locale, defaulting to C.UTF-8
> >>      CentOS Linux 8 - AppStream                                    10
> >>      kB/s | 4.3 kB     00:00
> >>      CentOS Linux 8 - BaseOS                                       23
> >>      kB/s | 3.9 kB     00:00
> >>      CentOS Linux 8 - ContinuousRelease                           5.3
> >>      kB/s | 3.0 kB     00:00
> >>      CentOS Linux 8 - Debuginfo                                   1.6
> >>      MB/s |  27 MB     00:16
> >>      CentOS Linux 8 - Devel WARNING! FOR BUILDROOT USE ONLY!       18
> >>      kB/s |  13 kB     00:00
> >>      CentOS Linux 8 - Extras                                      8.2
> >>      kB/s | 1.5 kB     00:00
> >>      CentOS Linux 8 - FastTrack                                   933
> >>      B/s | 257  B     00:00
> >>      CentOS Linux 8 - HighAvailability                            741
> >>      kB/s | 504 kB     00:00
> >>      CentOS Linux 8 - Plus                                        807
> >>      kB/s | 596 kB     00:00
> >>      CentOS Linux 8 - PowerTools                                  2.1
> >>      MB/s | 2.0 MB     00:00
> >>      CentOS Linux 8 - BaseOS - Source                             120
> >>      kB/s | 384 kB     00:03
> >>      CentOS Linux 8 - AppStream - Source                          271
> >>      kB/s | 991 kB     00:03
> >>      CentOS Linux 8 - Extras - Source                             2.2
> >>      kB/s | 7.8 kB     00:03
> >>      CentOS Linux 8 - Plus - Source                               1.7
> >>      kB/s | 5.0 kB     00:03
> >>      Package systemd-239-41.el8_3.x86_64 is already installed.
> >>      No matching package to install: 'libuser-devel'
> >>      Not all dependencies satisfied
> >>      Error: Some packages could not be found.
> >>      ```
> >>
> >>      Oh well, looks like we have to rebuild libuser as well:
> >>
> >>      ```
> >>      # dnf --enablerepo \* -y builddep libuser
> >>      Failed to set locale, defaulting to C.UTF-8
> >>      Last metadata expiration check: 0:02:14 ago on Tue Apr 13 10:36:39 2021.
> >>      No matching package to install: 'openldap-servers'
> >>      Not all dependencies satisfied
> >>      Error: Some packages could not be found.
> >>      ```
> >>
> >>      And apparently openldap, too.
> >>
> >>      I noticed that Davide from FB already come across this issue and
> >>      filed it in RHBZ[0], where it was
> >>      confirmed that the dependency is indeed present only in the internal
> >>      RHEL buildroot repository -
> >>      and after a quick test they still are:
> >>
> >>      # dnf --enablerepo rhel-buildroot search libuser-devel
> >>      ...
> >>      libuser-devel.i686 : Files needed for developing applications which
> >>      use libuser
> >>      libuser-devel.x86_64 : Files needed for developing applications
> >>      which use libuser
> >>
> >>      Is there any reason why they aren't shipped in some CentOS
> >>      repository or was there any progress
> >>      to make them available?
> >>
> >>      Thank you!
> >>
> >>      Frantisek
> >>
> >>
> >>      [0] https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1868430
> >>      <https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1868430>
> >>
> >>      --
> >>      Frantisek Sumsal
> >>      GPG key ID: 0xFB738CE27B634E4B
> >>
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> >>
> >>
> >> Yes, this has been discussed before on the list.  And it's a rather sore
> >> point.
> >>
> >> There are several -devel packages that are available on INTERNAL RHEL
> >> repositories, but they are never released externally.
> >> Thus any RHEL customers are not able to use them to build things that
> >> depend on those libraries, such as your example, libuser.
> >>
> >> CentOS is a clone (warts and all) of RHEL, and thus doesn't have those
> >> -devel packages available either.
> >>
> >> It's been this way since the release of RHEL8.
> >>
> >> Has there been any progress?
> >> Yes, a bit.
> >> First, check to make sure there is a bugzilla open for whichever missing
> >> -devel package you need.
> >> Next, wait several months/years to see the debate go back and forth on
> >> the bug.  It's possible it might make it in.
> >>
> >> Sorry for the sad tone, it's just a battle I've been waging since before
> >> RHEL8 was released.  I've given up hope for them being released on
> >> RHEL8, though occasionally I am happily surprised.  One of the packages
> >> I've been fighting for will be released in RHEL 8.4 ... but that's just
> >> 1 out of 4.
> >>
> >
> > We have made some progress as well .. we have gotten permission to
> > release some packages here:
> >
> > http://mirror.centos.org/centos/8.3.2011/Devel/
> >
> > We can't yet release everything .. but it is better than nothing.
> >
> > Same for Stream:
> >
> > http://mirror.centos.org/centos/8-stream/Devel/
>
> Just a note:
> This repository is still not populated for 8-stream. And according to
> previous conversations on this list it probably will never be. It has
> been said that people still try to find a proper solution to provide
> further/all missing packages. Let's see how this works out in the future
> (RHEL 9?).
>
> >
> > There is also the Powertools repo that has the Code Ready Base (CRB)
> > items, so many things outside straight RHEL are published .. everything
> > we are allowed to publish now, in fact.
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Carl George