On 4/13/21 10:34 AM, Johnny Hughes wrote: > On 4/13/21 10:23 AM, Simon Matter wrote: >>> On Tue, Apr 13, 2021 at 4:07 AM František Šumšal <frantisek at sumsal.cz> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> Hello! >>>> >>>> I'm not sure if this has been already answered somewhere on this list, >>>> but >>>> I'm curious why the CentOS 8 repositories are missing certain build >>>> dependencies >>>> (although they're present in RHEL's internal repositories). This makes >>>> rebuilding >>>> some of the CentOS 8 packages a bit painful. >>>> >>>> For example, let's try to rebuild util-linux: >>>> >>>> ``` >>>> $ podman run -it --rm centos:8 >>>> # rm -f /etc/yum.repos.d/CentOS-Linux-Media.repo >>>> # dnf -y install dnf-plugins-core >>>> ... >>>> # dnf --refresh --enablerepo \* -y builddep util-linux >>>> Failed to set locale, defaulting to C.UTF-8 >>>> CentOS Linux 8 - AppStream 10 kB/s | >>>> 4.3 kB 00:00 >>>> CentOS Linux 8 - BaseOS 23 kB/s | >>>> 3.9 kB 00:00 >>>> CentOS Linux 8 - ContinuousRelease 5.3 kB/s | >>>> 3.0 kB 00:00 >>>> CentOS Linux 8 - Debuginfo 1.6 MB/s | >>>> 27 MB 00:16 >>>> CentOS Linux 8 - Devel WARNING! FOR BUILDROOT USE ONLY! 18 kB/s | >>>> 13 kB 00:00 >>>> CentOS Linux 8 - Extras 8.2 kB/s | >>>> 1.5 kB 00:00 >>>> CentOS Linux 8 - FastTrack 933 B/s | >>>> 257 B 00:00 >>>> CentOS Linux 8 - HighAvailability 741 kB/s | >>>> 504 kB 00:00 >>>> CentOS Linux 8 - Plus 807 kB/s | >>>> 596 kB 00:00 >>>> CentOS Linux 8 - PowerTools 2.1 MB/s | >>>> 2.0 MB 00:00 >>>> CentOS Linux 8 - BaseOS - Source 120 kB/s | >>>> 384 kB 00:03 >>>> CentOS Linux 8 - AppStream - Source 271 kB/s | >>>> 991 kB 00:03 >>>> CentOS Linux 8 - Extras - Source 2.2 kB/s | >>>> 7.8 kB 00:03 >>>> CentOS Linux 8 - Plus - Source 1.7 kB/s | >>>> 5.0 kB 00:03 >>>> Package systemd-239-41.el8_3.x86_64 is already installed. >>>> No matching package to install: 'libuser-devel' >>>> Not all dependencies satisfied >>>> Error: Some packages could not be found. >>>> ``` >>>> >>>> Oh well, looks like we have to rebuild libuser as well: >>>> >>>> ``` >>>> # dnf --enablerepo \* -y builddep libuser >>>> Failed to set locale, defaulting to C.UTF-8 >>>> Last metadata expiration check: 0:02:14 ago on Tue Apr 13 10:36:39 2021. >>>> No matching package to install: 'openldap-servers' >>>> Not all dependencies satisfied >>>> Error: Some packages could not be found. >>>> ``` >>>> >>>> And apparently openldap, too. >>>> >>>> I noticed that Davide from FB already come across this issue and filed >>>> it >>>> in RHBZ[0], where it was >>>> confirmed that the dependency is indeed present only in the internal >>>> RHEL >>>> buildroot repository - >>>> and after a quick test they still are: >>>> >>>> # dnf --enablerepo rhel-buildroot search libuser-devel >>>> ... >>>> libuser-devel.i686 : Files needed for developing applications which use >>>> libuser >>>> libuser-devel.x86_64 : Files needed for developing applications which >>>> use >>>> libuser >>>> >>>> Is there any reason why they aren't shipped in some CentOS repository or >>>> was there any progress >>>> to make them available? >>>> >>>> Thank you! >>>> >>>> Frantisek >>>> >>>> >>>> [0] https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1868430 >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Frantisek Sumsal >>>> GPG key ID: 0xFB738CE27B634E4B >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> CentOS-devel mailing list >>>> CentOS-devel at centos.org >>>> https://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-devel >>> >>> >>> Yes, this has been discussed before on the list. And it's a rather sore >>> point. >>> >>> There are several -devel packages that are available on INTERNAL RHEL >>> repositories, but they are never released externally. >>> Thus any RHEL customers are not able to use them to build things that >>> depend on those libraries, such as your example, libuser. >>> >>> CentOS is a clone (warts and all) of RHEL, and thus doesn't have those >>> -devel packages available either. >>> >>> It's been this way since the release of RHEL8. >>> >>> Has there been any progress? >>> Yes, a bit. >>> First, check to make sure there is a bugzilla open for whichever missing >>> -devel package you need. >>> Next, wait several months/years to see the debate go back and forth on the >>> bug. It's possible it might make it in. >>> >>> Sorry for the sad tone, it's just a battle I've been waging since before >>> RHEL8 was released. I've given up hope for them being released on RHEL8, >>> though occasionally I am happily surprised. One of the packages I've been >>> fighting for will be released in RHEL 8.4 ... but that's just 1 out of 4. >>> >>> Troy >> >> Just wondering here, what's the license of libuser or why can the devel >> package not be released? >> > > It is not a license issue .. it a RHEL choice. And a policy. Red Hat > does not maintain these packages audited in a "released" state for the > binaries. The do release the source code for these packages and one can > build it themselves if they want the packages. > > The issue is, these are for linking and not for release. > > (I have nothing to do with there decisions :D ) > I also can obviously not type in english .. those of you who know me are not surprised !!!