[CentOS-devel] [EXT] Re: Missing build dependencies in CentOS 8 repositories

Tue Apr 13 15:37:58 UTC 2021
Peter Georg <peter.georg at physik.uni-regensburg.de>

On 13/04/2021 16.59, Johnny Hughes wrote:
> On 4/13/21 8:45 AM, Troy Dawson wrote:
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Apr 13, 2021 at 4:07 AM František Šumšal <frantisek at sumsal.cz
>> <mailto:frantisek at sumsal.cz>> wrote:
>>
>>      Hello!
>>
>>      I'm not sure if this has been already answered somewhere on this
>>      list, but
>>      I'm curious why the CentOS 8 repositories are missing certain build
>>      dependencies
>>      (although they're present in RHEL's internal repositories). This
>>      makes rebuilding
>>      some of the CentOS 8 packages a bit painful.
>>
>>      For example, let's try to rebuild util-linux:
>>
>>      ```
>>      $ podman run -it --rm centos:8
>>      # rm -f /etc/yum.repos.d/CentOS-Linux-Media.repo
>>      # dnf -y install dnf-plugins-core
>>      ...
>>      # dnf --refresh --enablerepo \* -y builddep util-linux
>>      Failed to set locale, defaulting to C.UTF-8
>>      CentOS Linux 8 - AppStream                                    10
>>      kB/s | 4.3 kB     00:00
>>      CentOS Linux 8 - BaseOS                                       23
>>      kB/s | 3.9 kB     00:00
>>      CentOS Linux 8 - ContinuousRelease                           5.3
>>      kB/s | 3.0 kB     00:00
>>      CentOS Linux 8 - Debuginfo                                   1.6
>>      MB/s |  27 MB     00:16
>>      CentOS Linux 8 - Devel WARNING! FOR BUILDROOT USE ONLY!       18
>>      kB/s |  13 kB     00:00
>>      CentOS Linux 8 - Extras                                      8.2
>>      kB/s | 1.5 kB     00:00
>>      CentOS Linux 8 - FastTrack                                   933
>>      B/s | 257  B     00:00
>>      CentOS Linux 8 - HighAvailability                            741
>>      kB/s | 504 kB     00:00
>>      CentOS Linux 8 - Plus                                        807
>>      kB/s | 596 kB     00:00
>>      CentOS Linux 8 - PowerTools                                  2.1
>>      MB/s | 2.0 MB     00:00
>>      CentOS Linux 8 - BaseOS - Source                             120
>>      kB/s | 384 kB     00:03
>>      CentOS Linux 8 - AppStream - Source                          271
>>      kB/s | 991 kB     00:03
>>      CentOS Linux 8 - Extras - Source                             2.2
>>      kB/s | 7.8 kB     00:03
>>      CentOS Linux 8 - Plus - Source                               1.7
>>      kB/s | 5.0 kB     00:03
>>      Package systemd-239-41.el8_3.x86_64 is already installed.
>>      No matching package to install: 'libuser-devel'
>>      Not all dependencies satisfied
>>      Error: Some packages could not be found.
>>      ```
>>
>>      Oh well, looks like we have to rebuild libuser as well:
>>
>>      ```
>>      # dnf --enablerepo \* -y builddep libuser
>>      Failed to set locale, defaulting to C.UTF-8
>>      Last metadata expiration check: 0:02:14 ago on Tue Apr 13 10:36:39 2021.
>>      No matching package to install: 'openldap-servers'
>>      Not all dependencies satisfied
>>      Error: Some packages could not be found.
>>      ```
>>
>>      And apparently openldap, too.
>>
>>      I noticed that Davide from FB already come across this issue and
>>      filed it in RHBZ[0], where it was
>>      confirmed that the dependency is indeed present only in the internal
>>      RHEL buildroot repository -
>>      and after a quick test they still are:
>>
>>      # dnf --enablerepo rhel-buildroot search libuser-devel
>>      ...
>>      libuser-devel.i686 : Files needed for developing applications which
>>      use libuser
>>      libuser-devel.x86_64 : Files needed for developing applications
>>      which use libuser
>>
>>      Is there any reason why they aren't shipped in some CentOS
>>      repository or was there any progress
>>      to make them available?
>>
>>      Thank you!
>>
>>      Frantisek
>>
>>
>>      [0] https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1868430
>>      <https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1868430>
>>
>>      --
>>      Frantisek Sumsal
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>>
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>>
>> Yes, this has been discussed before on the list.  And it's a rather sore
>> point.
>>
>> There are several -devel packages that are available on INTERNAL RHEL
>> repositories, but they are never released externally.
>> Thus any RHEL customers are not able to use them to build things that
>> depend on those libraries, such as your example, libuser.
>>
>> CentOS is a clone (warts and all) of RHEL, and thus doesn't have those
>> -devel packages available either.
>>
>> It's been this way since the release of RHEL8.
>>
>> Has there been any progress?
>> Yes, a bit.
>> First, check to make sure there is a bugzilla open for whichever missing
>> -devel package you need.
>> Next, wait several months/years to see the debate go back and forth on
>> the bug.  It's possible it might make it in.
>>
>> Sorry for the sad tone, it's just a battle I've been waging since before
>> RHEL8 was released.  I've given up hope for them being released on
>> RHEL8, though occasionally I am happily surprised.  One of the packages
>> I've been fighting for will be released in RHEL 8.4 ... but that's just
>> 1 out of 4.
>>
> 
> We have made some progress as well .. we have gotten permission to
> release some packages here:
> 
> http://mirror.centos.org/centos/8.3.2011/Devel/
> 
> We can't yet release everything .. but it is better than nothing.
> 
> Same for Stream:
> 
> http://mirror.centos.org/centos/8-stream/Devel/

Just a note:
This repository is still not populated for 8-stream. And according to 
previous conversations on this list it probably will never be. It has 
been said that people still try to find a proper solution to provide 
further/all missing packages. Let's see how this works out in the future 
(RHEL 9?).

> 
> There is also the Powertools repo that has the Code Ready Base (CRB)
> items, so many things outside straight RHEL are published .. everything
> we are allowed to publish now, in fact.
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