On Mon, Feb 1, 2021 at 5:32 PM redbaronbrowser <redbaronbrowser at protonmail.com> wrote: > > On Monday, February 1, 2021 3:55 PM, Neal Gompa <ngompa13 at gmail.com> wrote: > > > On Mon, Feb 1, 2021 at 3:14 PM redbaronbrowser via CentOS-devel > > centos-devel at centos.org wrote: > > > > > On Sunday, January 31, 2021 7:14 AM, Peter Meier peter.meier at immerda.ch wrote: > > > > > > > > I can't use CentOS Stream - it is beta quality and has critical bugs. > > > > > For example: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1913806 > > > > > This bug is critical for me, because I use systemd-nspawn containers > > > > > for production. I will continue to use CentOS Stream in the future, > > > > > but only as the beta-tester, to see what new will be in the future > > > > > minor release of Oracle Linux / Alma Linux / Rocky Linux. > > > > > > > > [...] > > > > And as a Stream user and contributor you can also add your use case to > > > > t_functional which in the end becomes gating for Stream. So you avoid > > > > future regression for your use case, although it is even not officially > > > > supported. > > > > > > How? When? > > > I still see no method to submit a pull request against the official CI/CD t_function sets. I also have not seen an ETA to being able to do so. > > > Where is the example code of existing t_function sets? > > > Where is the style/coding guide that must be followed to get new t_functions accept? > > > > The functional tests are stored here:https://git.centos.org/centos/t_functional > > > > You can make pull requests against it there. > > I was under the impression that the RHEL team was sitting on much more than this. It seem like there was a good chance I would duplicating efforts on tests already done internally if I tried to contribute right now. > > What exists looks like the level of testing I would expect of a *downstream* distribution. The amount of commits over the last three months also seem like downstream distribution level. > > If this is the complete offering from the RHEL team to make Stream an upstream usable by 95% or more of CentOS users then that is very discouraging. > > My personal perspective is we are having to recreate something to the level of Wikipedia from scratch in 11 months but at least most of the articles beginning with Z have been written. > The other stuff is in Fedora under the Fedora CI banner. That will have much more of an impact when CentOS Stream 9 opens in three months. Most of those tests are in the Fedora Git server now: https://src.fedoraproject.org/projects/tests/%2A Some extra tests are part of the package git repositories, like in the case of sudo: https://src.fedoraproject.org/rpms/sudo/blob/master/f/tests But these things aren't available for CentOS Stream 8 and I'm not sure they ever will be, since they're being rewritten more or less from scratch and upstreamed into Fedora now for CentOS Stream 9. -- 真実はいつも一つ！/ Always, there's only one truth!