I don't think this is constructive. Active members of this mailing list are not a good sample of the CentOS community, no matter how you define it, and I can't see what an "unofficial" vote can possibly do to promote discussion in a positive way. I consider myself a member of the CentOS community by several definitions (I've been on this list since 2005, and have been engaged in various ways in the past fifteen years, and I've had CentOS Linux systems running in various states of production over that time) and certainly not by others (I've never worked directly on CentOS). Of course, now I work for Red Hat, but even if I didn't, I wouldn't feel at all comfortable voting in any way on the things you have proposed, particularly with the presuming-the-antecedent argument behind your calls for various resignations. (Which, also, are incredibly disrespectful to folks who have worked VERY HARD for CentOS.) -- Matthew Miller <mattdm at fedoraproject.org> Fedora Project Leader