On Fri, Jan 29, 2021 at 8:51 PM redbaronbrowser via CentOS-devel <centos-devel at centos.org> wrote: > > On Friday, January 29, 2021 1:12 PM, Matthew Miller <mattdm at mattdm.org> wrote: > > > On Fri, Jan 29, 2021 at 07:06:02PM +0000, redbaronbrowser via CentOS-devel wrote: > > > > > Instead, it is clear making free RHEL licenses was a priority. They are > > > delivering on new RHEL terms before they make available Stream on gitlab > > > and the other changes need for Stream to be a meaningful upstream. > > > > I don't think you should read too much into that. These things are done by > > very different teams, all going as fast as they can. > > I am sorry, I worded that badly. Also based on Bex's interview that Red Hat is expecting more people to move to free RHEL than to move to Stream. I want to reiterate what Matthew said. He's right. Don't read into my interviews that you've seen published as us pushing RHEL over CentOS Stream. Interviews result in pieces that are what the journalist wanted to write about. If they want to write about RHEL, they ask questions about RHEL and I answer about RHEL. if someone wants to write about CentOS Stream then they'd get CentOS Stream answers. regards, bex > > It does not upset me that Red Hat is promoting RHEL with the claim it is a better option over Stream. That is to be expected. > > I also agree they are working as fast as they can on both fronts. > > The things that bother me are: > > (1) Setting a termination date for CentOS 8 independant of how long it takes to make Stream available in a meaningful way > > (2) Lack of achieving a success criteria for Stream before setting the termination date > > (3) Indicating the promises of governance was just a document that silently went "out of date" > > (4) Now talking about the future of Stream 9 like that is something that will not just go silently out of date as well > > Once we are asked to accept fundamental aspects of the CentOS / Red Hat merging simply go "out of date." Then it seems reasonable to be skeptical of if the 16 RHEL offering or Stream will even continue to exist at all after 4 years. Anything said now today should be considered "out of date" long before Stream 9 is even possibly a thing. > > _______________________________________________ > CentOS-devel mailing list > CentOS-devel at centos.org > https://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-devel > -- Did this email arrive after work for you? Stop reading it and enjoy some work/life balance. Brian "bex" Exelbierd (he/him/his) Community Business Owner, RHEL Product Management @bexelbie | http://www.winglemeyer.org bexelbie at redhat.com