On Thu, Jul 15, 2021 at 4:36 PM Johnny Hughes <johnny at centos.org> wrote: > Other than the kernels, I'm sorry but you would be hard pressed to find > something in Stream that doesn't also happen in CentOS and even RHEL. > It just happens a month or two earlier in Stream. BUT, so do bugfixes :) I hope you understand that we expect both gross and subtle failures of the beta testing in CentOS 8 Stream. I expect it with python modules, when the author of one module fails to restrict versions of other modules, especially modules brought in by dependencies, to versions that are compatible because they cannot *predict* that the next version will be compatible. It can be very difficult to anticipate those: ansible is a great example right now, since the latest ansible release requires python 3.8 and the panoply of necessary modules are not yet available anywhere. It's one of the dangers of the "streaming" model, when unanticipated dependencies are discovered in the field. It's why I expect people to use rsync or reposync tools to generate internal mirrors with locked snapshots, which they used to do with CentOS point releases.