[CentOS-devel] Can CentOS Stream 8 Devel repo be populated

On Mon, May 17, 2021 at 3:57 PM Mike McGrath <mmcgrath at redhat.com> wrote:
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> On Mon, May 17, 2021 at 2:48 PM Phil Perry <pperry at elrepo.org> wrote:
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>> On 17/05/2021 20:46, Phil Perry wrote:
>> > On 17/05/2021 20:30, Johnny Hughes wrote:
>> >> On 5/17/21 1:46 PM, Mike McGrath wrote:
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> Snipping content as we seem to have reached some mailing list limit
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>> >>> This is mostly because we also don't ship it in RHEL and we don't ship
>> >>> it there because we don't want to be on the hook to support it (even
>> >>> RHEL has a budget and limited resources).
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>> >>> As far as CentOS Stream, the promise is that if it runs in CentOS Stream
>> >>> today it should run in the next version of RHEL.  By including content
>> >>> in Stream that we don't include in RHEL, suddenly that promise is broken
>> >>> if someone accidentally uses it assuming it's in RHEL.
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>> >>> I'm not saying there aren't ways to work through these issues, but I
>> >>> wanted to give some ideas as to the thought process that got us here.
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>> >>>             -Mike
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>> >> Mike,
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>> >> That is all well and good .. but it is your guys (EPEL and Red Hat SIGs)
>> >> that need this Development content to be in CentOS Stream and the CentOS
>> >> Community Build System to build things.  (I can build things as this
>> >> content is already in my Koji buildroot).
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>> >> And it is me, this list, and the CentOS Stream group that keep getting
>> >> asked (by EPEL and the RH SIGs) why this open source stuff can not be in
>> >> CentOS Linux, CentOS Stream and the CBS.
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>> >> Surely we can set up a non RHEL released repo that your guys can use to
>> >> build the things that they want.
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>> >> Thanks,
>> >> Johnny Hughes
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>> > But from what Mike just said, EPEL/SIGs should be building against those
>> > missing -devel packages on Stream because anything built on Stream must
>> > also run on RHEL?
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>> Sorry, typo - EPEL/SIGs should NOT be building against those missing
>> -devel packages...
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> I'm always confused by this because the basis of CRB *was* supposed to be what was required to build EPEL.  I'm not sure if EPEL has grown since we started or if we just missed the mark with CRB.
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Unfortunately, I think it's pretty much the latter. :(



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