On Mon, May 17, 2021 at 3:57 PM Mike McGrath <mmcgrath at redhat.com> wrote: > > On Mon, May 17, 2021 at 2:48 PM Phil Perry <pperry at elrepo.org> wrote: >> >> On 17/05/2021 20:46, Phil Perry wrote: >> > On 17/05/2021 20:30, Johnny Hughes wrote: >> >> On 5/17/21 1:46 PM, Mike McGrath wrote: >> >>> > > > Snipping content as we seem to have reached some mailing list limit > >> >> >>> >> >>> This is mostly because we also don't ship it in RHEL and we don't ship >> >>> it there because we don't want to be on the hook to support it (even >> >>> RHEL has a budget and limited resources). >> >>> >> >>> As far as CentOS Stream, the promise is that if it runs in CentOS Stream >> >>> today it should run in the next version of RHEL. By including content >> >>> in Stream that we don't include in RHEL, suddenly that promise is broken >> >>> if someone accidentally uses it assuming it's in RHEL. >> >>> >> >>> I'm not saying there aren't ways to work through these issues, but I >> >>> wanted to give some ideas as to the thought process that got us here. >> >>> >> >>> -Mike >> >>> >> >> >> >> Mike, >> >> >> >> That is all well and good .. but it is your guys (EPEL and Red Hat SIGs) >> >> that need this Development content to be in CentOS Stream and the CentOS >> >> Community Build System to build things. (I can build things as this >> >> content is already in my Koji buildroot). >> >> >> >> And it is me, this list, and the CentOS Stream group that keep getting >> >> asked (by EPEL and the RH SIGs) why this open source stuff can not be in >> >> CentOS Linux, CentOS Stream and the CBS. >> >> >> >> Surely we can set up a non RHEL released repo that your guys can use to >> >> build the things that they want. >> >> >> >> Thanks, >> >> Johnny Hughes >> > >> > >> > But from what Mike just said, EPEL/SIGs should be building against those >> > missing -devel packages on Stream because anything built on Stream must >> > also run on RHEL? >> > >> >> Sorry, typo - EPEL/SIGs should NOT be building against those missing >> -devel packages... >> > > I'm always confused by this because the basis of CRB *was* supposed to be what was required to build EPEL. I'm not sure if EPEL has grown since we started or if we just missed the mark with CRB. > Unfortunately, I think it's pretty much the latter. :( -- 真実はいつも一つ！/ Always, there's only one truth!