[CentOS-devel] [EXT] Re: Furthering the evolution of CentOS Stream

Fri Jun 23 16:03:53 UTC 2023
Josh Boyer <jwboyer at redhat.com>

On Fri, Jun 23, 2023 at 11:44 AM Phil Perry <pperry at elrepo.org> wrote:
>
> On 23/06/2023 16:34, Josh Boyer wrote:
> > On Fri, Jun 23, 2023 at 9:44 AM Simon Matter <simon.matter at invoca.ch> wrote:
> >>
> >>> On Fri, Jun 23, 2023 at 7:47 AM Peter Georg
> >>> <peter.georg at physik.uni-regensburg.de> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> On 22/06/2023 12.56, Josh Boyer wrote:
> >>>>> On Thu, Jun 22, 2023 at 6:51 AM Leon Fauster via CentOS-devel
> >>>>> <centos-devel at centos.org> wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Hi All,
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> I wonder if someone is in the role/position to shed some more light
> >>>> on
> >>>>>> the topic as announced here
> >>>>>> https://www.redhat.com/en/blog/furthering-evolution-centos-stream
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Any deadlines? Does this target only EL10 or also any current
> >>>> release?
> >>>>>
> >>>>> It is in effect now for RHEL 8 and 9 and will continue for any future
> >>>>> RHEL releases.  The development and source code for all of these
> >>>>> releases will continue to happen through the CentOS Stream project.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> RHEL 7 and CentOS Linux 7 are not affected.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> Would be great if some discussion/communication could be happen.
> >>>> Thanks!
> >>>>>
> >>>>> If you have more questions, please ask and we can try to address them.
> >>>>
> >>>> I do indeed have a question. The Kmods SIG currently provides artifacts
> >>>> for both CentOS Stream and RHEL. To achieve that we have established
> >>>> some automation using GitLab CI to avoid human interaction as far as
> >>>> possible. For that to work we do need access to the following sources
> >>>> from RHEL (version numbers are just examples):
> >>>>
> >>>> kernel-5.14.0-284.18.1.el9_2.src.rpm
> >>>>
> >>>> or
> >>>>
> >>>> linux-5.14.0-284.18.1.el9_2.tar.xz (which is included in the src.rpm).
> >>>>
> >>>> So far we have downloaded the tarball from git.centos.org/sources
> >>>>
> >>>> However, my understanding is that new versions of these files will not
> >>>> be provided anymore. In fact the example listed here (current RHEL 9
> >>>> kernel) is already not provided anymore.
> >>>
> >>> Your understanding is correct.
> >>>
> >>
> >> What I don't understand is this: as a Red Hat customer with paid
> >> subscription, I'm still able to download
> >> kernel-5.14.0-284.18.1.el9_2.src.rpm, right?
> >
> > Yes.
> >
> >> If I do so and extract the kernel-5.14.0-284.18.1.el9_2.src.rpm archive,
> >> can I put the resulting files on a public server and let others download
> >> the files?
> >
> > The kernel is licensed under the GPL, which grants redistribution
> > rights to all such licensed source code.
> >
> > josh
> >
>
> Then maybe the CentOS Project should start a SiG to pull the RHEL
> sources and populate a repository for everyone to freely access, thus
> filling the void left by RH's decision to withdraw this?

If someone wants to propose that they can.  Speaking as an individual
Board member, I don't believe I would be in support of such a SIG.  I
won't speak for the rest of the Board, nor for the Red Hat liaison.

josh