On 26/06/2023 11:12, Nico Kadel-Garcia wrote: > On Fri, Jun 23, 2023 at 9:44 AM Simon Matter <simon.matter at invoca.ch> wrote: >> >>> On Fri, Jun 23, 2023 at 7:47 AM Peter Georg >>> <peter.georg at physik.uni-regensburg.de> wrote: >>>> >>>> On 22/06/2023 12.56, Josh Boyer wrote: >>>>> On Thu, Jun 22, 2023 at 6:51 AM Leon Fauster via CentOS-devel >>>>> <centos-devel at centos.org> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Hi All, >>>>>> >>>>>> I wonder if someone is in the role/position to shed some more light >>>> on >>>>>> the topic as announced here >>>>>> https://www.redhat.com/en/blog/furthering-evolution-centos-stream >>>>>> >>>>>> Any deadlines? Does this target only EL10 or also any current >>>> release? >>>>> >>>>> It is in effect now for RHEL 8 and 9 and will continue for any future >>>>> RHEL releases. The development and source code for all of these >>>>> releases will continue to happen through the CentOS Stream project. >>>>> >>>>> RHEL 7 and CentOS Linux 7 are not affected. >>>>> >>>>>> Would be great if some discussion/communication could be happen. >>>> Thanks! >>>>> >>>>> If you have more questions, please ask and we can try to address them. >>>> >>>> I do indeed have a question. The Kmods SIG currently provides artifacts >>>> for both CentOS Stream and RHEL. To achieve that we have established >>>> some automation using GitLab CI to avoid human interaction as far as >>>> possible. For that to work we do need access to the following sources >>>> from RHEL (version numbers are just examples): >>>> >>>> kernel-5.14.0-284.18.1.el9_2.src.rpm >>>> >>>> or >>>> >>>> linux-5.14.0-284.18.1.el9_2.tar.xz (which is included in the src.rpm). >>>> >>>> So far we have downloaded the tarball from git.centos.org/sources >>>> >>>> However, my understanding is that new versions of these files will not >>>> be provided anymore. In fact the example listed here (current RHEL 9 >>>> kernel) is already not provided anymore. >>> >>> Your understanding is correct. >>> >> >> What I don't understand is this: as a Red Hat customer with paid >> subscription, I'm still able to download >> kernel-5.14.0-284.18.1.el9_2.src.rpm, right? >> >> If I do so and extract the kernel-5.14.0-284.18.1.el9_2.src.rpm archive, >> can I put the resulting files on a public server and let others download >> the files? >> >> Regards, >> Simon > > The kernel is GPL, so "yes", as long as you're willing to make any > changes you add to the source code available to people who get the > binaries. Do review the GPL, it's an interesting license. However, my understanding is that Red Hat are saying or implying that by redistributing the source, you are in breach of their T&C's (not the GPL) and as such they would have the right to terminate your contract meaning you would no longer have access to said sources. (Please review the T&Cs you agreed with Red Hat as a paying customer) I am not sure if Red Hat's T&Cs are compatible with the GPL which states: " 6. Each time you redistribute the Program (or any work based on the Program), the recipient automatically receives a license from the original licensor to copy, distribute or modify the Program subject to these terms and conditions. **You may not impose any further restrictions on the recipients' exercise of the rights granted herein.** You are not responsible for enforcing compliance by third parties to this License." Red Hat would likely argue that they are not imposing further restrictions to the software licence itself, only on the use of their services by paying customers. Red Hat would need to clarify their position (and please feel free to correct me if I have misunderstood) Phil