On Fri, 12 Oct 2007, Alain Reguera Delgado wrote: > On 10/12/07, Dag Wieers <dag at centos.org> wrote: > > On Fri, 12 Oct 2007, Alain Reguera Delgado wrote: > > > On 10/12/07, Dag Wieers <dag at centos.org> wrote: > > > > > On Fri, Oct 12, 2007 at 04:49:40PM +0200, Dag Wieers enlightened us: > > > > > > > > > > > > What do you think about this structure: > > > > > > > http://wiki.centos.org/FrontPageProposal?action=AttachFile&do=get&target=wiki-structure-5-en.png > > > ... > > > > > > And the documentation block looks like it is a > > > > > > permanent menu, while it is not. > > > > > > What do you mean with permanet exactly ? > > > > One that is available for every wiki document. The content does not have > > to be permanent (per se), but at least the location and functionality > > should. That is part of helping the visitor find its way. > > The link Documentation in the NaviBar is always visible. In the > FrontPage we include some content about Documentation for quicker > access. When the visitor goes inside the wiki, the Documentation link > and others defined are still in the NaviBar, so the user can use it > wherever he whats. The same case of RecentChanges actually. > > Actually the NaviBar is horizontally, so reader's order of preference > is from left to right below logo image. In a left sidebar design it > would be from up to down at left side. > > In each case we can add links to NaviBar, or remove default links and > add ours ... Maybe we need to consider what we want ... delete default > MoinMoin links (RecentChanges, FindPage, etc) and adding just > Documentation, Donate, etc (always less than 7 or six links as moin > recommend) OR leave default links and add ours after them (still 2 or > 3 links more). > > If we put just our links (Documentation, Donate, etc) it would be a > very CentOS NaviBar ... but make it a little difficult to users a > quickly access to some important wiki pages like RecentChanges, > FindPages, HelpContents, etc ... of course we could put this important > wiki links on some clear place at FrontPage content section (not at > NaviBar) ... this would make one step longer to access pages like > RecentChanges but users will access CentOS contents through NaviBar > from anywhere with just one click and we could keep NaviBar under 6 or > 7 links. > > Maybe we can put CentOS important links like Documentation first and > then wiki important links like RecentChanges. > > What do you think ? Do we still need a vertically NaviBar ? Could the > horizontal NaviBar do the trick ? I think we do not have to reinvent any wheel. Most users are accustomed to this: --------------------------------------------------------------- CentOS wiki /logo login | search: _________ --------------- ----------------------------------------------- MENU: | Welcome to the CentOS wiki. ------------- download | a blah blah introduction text. | random | documentation | You can find information yada | screenshot | contribute | yada | | promote | | | donate | ------------- about | | _Download CentOS now._ Find out how to download | the latest CentOS release and updates.... EVENTS: | T-DOSE 2007 | _Documentation on CentOS._ Help yourself with LinuxWorld NL | our FAQ and Tips-and-tricks. Browse to our.... FOSDEM | | _Contribute to CentOS._ Make yourself useful | and provide bugreports and feedback. Join.... NEWS: | Item 1 great | _Promote CentOS._ Show Centos to people and Item 2 cool | usergroups. Design flyers, stickers and.... Item 3 neat | | _Donate to CentOS._ Provide us with the funds | we need so hard to operate this project.... PLANET: | Post 1 mighty | _About CentOS._ What is CentOS? Who is Post 2 fancy | running this project? Who can I contact.... Post 3 wicked | | --------------- ---------------------------------------------------- When a user is logged on, he gets the extra navigation bar --------------------------------------------------------------- CentOS wiki / logo login | search: _________ --------------- ----------------------------------------------- MENU: | Edit | Info | Subscribe | RecentChanges | ... download ----------------------------------------------- documentation | Welcome to the CentOS wiki. ------------- contribute | a blah blah introduction text. | random | promote | You can find information yada | screenshot | . . . . . . . . and so on ... This is simple and what most people expect for a frontpage. And that is *good*. We don't have to go against what people already expect and now. This is an informational site, not a site to make people change their habits because defaults are boring. I like conventional things to accomodate people, not too many information and not too many links. People should feel at ease, pleasant. Sorry for the lousy ascii-art, I guess if I was good in graphics, than the graphics would probably stand in the way of the message :-) BTW Thanks for your patience, I can imagine that it is not easy with a bunch of perfectionists (like me) ;-) -- -- dag wieers, dag at centos.org, http://dag.wieers.com/ -- [Any errors in spelling, tact or fact are transmission errors]
