[CentOS-docs] Proposal: Java HowTo Section
R P Herrold
herrold at centos.org
Thu Apr 30 18:05:02 UTC 2009
On Wed, 29 Apr 2009, Sean Gilligan wrote:
> Russ Herrold added the "special note" on OpenJDK, hopefully he will
> chime in.
Sean, I think you are on the right track; I would refactor
the java articles into a couple of them in a sub-tree, with
a chooser at the head, probably forming on pre/post 5.3, and
on Method A and Method B, to better handle sub issues, and aid
maintenance.
The 'political' background on Java and the absence of a Four
Freedoms freely availabile test suite to produce a conforming
Java (it is seriously not free, and remains so) constrains the
CentOS project mightily. We need nothing but elideable
trademarks (and no other IP constraints) to be able to safely
build it. No NDA's no indemnifications, no patent threats, no
non-freely reproduceable copyrights. See my IA_AL disclaimer
in the piece cited in a moment, included by reference here.
In the absence of a reasonable test suite for EACH OF 1) a
given Java implementation, and disjunctly 2) a given Java
application, I have led (strenuously) opposition to the
inclusion of Java in the LSB standard, and will continue to so
drive my views, until and unless Sun's entire toolchain [of
that from another project] becomes Four Freedoms (or at least
OSI FOSS) compatible.
https://lists.linux-foundation.org/pipermail/lsb-discuss/2008-August/005410.html
has all the gory details.
This opposition does not mean I oppose Java and its use; it is
just not FOSS. I am please to see that the java application I
use (also using the AWT) 'just works' under 5.3 with the
addition of some fonts; when I have time I'll narrow down just
what I need in a minimal install.
-- Russ herrold
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