Dag Wieers wrote: > Something that is not helping us with Google is the prefix "www.centos.org - " > to every page of the website (including the forums). Its good to see people taking some initiative on the seo side of things, however most of whats in this thread seems to be oriented towards much smaller sites, and does not apply to us in a large number of cases. google has hand ( yes, manually ) setup site specific preferences for centos.org - to the extent that we have 2 google bot's on the web server 24/7. In some cases, forum posts show up on google's cache within 8 - 12 minutes of the posts being made on the website. posts to centos-announce will also make it into google's cache in a matter of minutes. JohnS: there is no such thing as www.wiki.centos.org - so I am not sure what you are talking about. Also, google does not care much about meta tags, some of the other engines do - so they are still good to have ( google isnt quite 100% of the internet search traffic yet! ). But google-foo in the title of a page is about 4 to 8% of the 'potency' rating of a page. Fewer the words in that list, the more the potency per word. Somewhere between 15 to 20% of the 'potency' score comes from what keywords other sites use ( specially those that have fewer than 20 url's pointing back at .centos.org ) to link to that specific page. Placement of words within the title, for titles less than 8 words, has very little keyword by keyword diff. eg 'baking bread' and 'bread baking' have about the same relevance for each word. However 'bunch of wise old men sitting around doing nothing but baking bread' and 'bread baking by a bunch of wise old men sitting around doing nothing' will have different scores and therefore usage for the words 'baking' and 'bread'. Forum moderators would be able to provide more feedback here : how relevant and accurate are most topic's for threads ? If they are bang-on, perhaps it might be a good idea to replace the entire title of the page with just the title of the post, drop everything else. <opinion - subject to discussion>. btw, SEO is all opinion and experience and very little real fact and reverse engineered ;D -- Karanbir Singh : http://www.karan.org/ : 2522219 at icq