[CentOS-docs] New HOWTO: Setting up multiple IP addresses on the same network interface

Sat Jul 4 07:13:42 UTC 2009
JohnS <jses27 at gmail.com>

On Sat, 2009-07-04 at 00:56 +0200, Dag Wieers wrote:
> John,
> I agree for the website. But for the wiki, we need some fixes too and 
> we're not going to replace the wiki by a 'Web App'.

OK, that Wiki is a Web Application. I'm not really advocating to replace
it. It is dynamic and static in nature.

> So whatever we can do to improve the pages (as stated in those threads) we 
> should do as soon as possible.
> I noticed a lot of other centos website are being created by people to 
> fill in the void there is because our wiki simply sucks from a Google 
> point of view:

I guess that some people like to have there on sites and the freedom not
to be held down by agreeing to a license. Possibly some do not know they
can come to the wiki and write there content on it and keep the page
maintained by them like a few others do. Perhaps some are a little

The wiki is really not advocated on the main centos.org site. Hopefully
that will change. There is a link to it on the main site but it is just
bland in nature. It says "wiki" but no clue or indication of what it has
or contains. Another problem is 50% of the people searching do not know
how to search for something. An extension to convert the page to a PDF
so the viewer could save it would be well kinda nice.
> The last ones are really to cry for because lots of these results do have 
> a link to our wiki, but the wiki is simply missing from the first 100 
> results...
> Even searching for:
>  	x200s site:wiki.centos.org
> results not in the page I was hoping for. As if the wiki (or at least 
> big parts of it) is simply ignored by Google.


Stranger, Bing even pops ups the wiki url for "centos wireless". Hit
number two! What happened to google? Bing has crawled the site real

> We have a robots.txt that has nothing really in it. From what I can find, 
> an empty robots.txt should have the same effect as no robots.txt, but ours 
> is not exactly empty in the true meaning of the word. So maybe we should 
> empty it, or simply remove it altogether ?

Not really true. Depends also on the structure of the web page. For example 
the index.html or for that fact the very base page can have also in the Meta
Content Section follow or nofollow. Which in turn google or bing bots
will follow and crawl the site.

Screen Scraper: Actual Wiki Base Page. So there fore it will get
followed by any bot. This probally really confuses some people at a

<meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html;charset=utf-8">
<meta name="robots" content="index,follow">

> PS The wiki does seem to be indexed, so I doubt it is the robots.txt

Yes, there is a XML indexing file and I did verify that back at previous
discussion of which I want publicly throw out the url to it. It could
generate unforseeable actions. Mainly because it is regenerated on every
request to it.

Something I would look into right now is the server logs to see when the
last time google crawled the wiki. I really think it has been awhile
since it has. 

[1] < http://www.bing.com/search?q=site%3Awiki.centos.org
+wireless&go=&form=QBRE&scope=web&qs=n >

[2] < http://www.google.com/webhp?hl=en&btnG=Google+Search#q=site%
3Awiki.centos.org+wireless&hl=en&sa=2&fp=A3HD1AZvc28 >