>> I've never seen any request in here, I replied to him after Dag >> forwarded me his mail - if he doesn't see mail he gets sent, that more >> or less is not my problem. I did make the request in here initially, not sure why the list never saw it. I made that request immediately after subscribing, maybe I sent it too soon. As I stated in my email to Dag I never started getting list email until the day I emailed him. I am sorry that I missed your email Raplh, I still do not see that email in my inbox. >> Regarding his issues with #centos - no idea ... As to the #centos, just all to often seems to be a "pot luck" of weather you even get a response there. Sometimes (quite often) when you do it is in the form of a nasty remark followed by a not so helpful "rtfm" and no real answer ever given. Obviously you can't control the users in the channel but I'm just saying that it is not nice for new Linux users looking for help to get told stop asking dumb questions and rtfm. My point in those comments was merely to have someone re-think the advice to go to #centos for support when this very place often alienates new users. -- David Dreggors ddreggors at cfl.rr.com (321) 295-9131