absolutely serious question -- i appreciate that it's important to still document how things are done in centos 4, but i have precisely zero interest in that. given how long centos 5 has been out, and that centos 6 is not that far down the road given the alleged release schedule for RHEL 6 (rumoured end of year), i plan on investing my time in centos 5 and 6 exclusively. so while i'm more than happy to write/update docs, i won't be spending any time whatsoever with centos 4. so what does one do under those circumstances? again, this is a perfectly serious question. i know it's not fair to short-change centos 4 -- i just have no interest in it. rday -- ======================================================================== Robert P. J. Day Waterloo, Ontario, CANADA http://crashcourse.ca Twitter: http://twitter.com/rpjday LinkedIn: http://ca.linkedin.com/in/rpjday ========================================================================