[CentOS-mirror] Re: CentOS-mirror Digest, Vol 26, Issue 13

Thu Apr 19 06:51:33 UTC 2007
ahmad saiful <ipull2010 at gmail.com>

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>    1. Re: Status of dvd iso for CentOS mirrors. (H. Peter Anvin)
>    2. Re: Status of dvd iso for CentOS mirrors. (H. Peter Anvin)
>    3. New Mirror (Bill Glick)
>    4. Re: Status of dvd iso for CentOS mirrors.
>       (Nuno Vieira - nfsi telecom)
>    5. Re: Status of dvd iso for CentOS mirrors. (Olivier Thauvin)
>    6. Re: Status of dvd iso for CentOS mirrors. (Brian Elliott Finley)
>    7. Re: Status of dvd iso for CentOS mirrors. (Brian Elliott Finley)
>    8. Re: Status of dvd iso for CentOS mirrors. (Lars Strand)
>    9. Re: Status of dvd iso for CentOS mirrors. (Johnny Hughes)
>   10. Re: Status of dvd iso for CentOS mirrors.
>       (Nuno Vieira - nfsi telecom)
>   11. Re: Syncing of CentOS 5 to mirrors. (Guido Nickels)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2007 09:30:09 -0700
> From: "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa at zytor.com>
> Subject: Re: [CentOS-mirror] Status of dvd iso for CentOS mirrors.
> To: "Mailing list for CentOS mirrors." <centos-mirror at centos.org>
> Message-ID: <4624F611.2040907 at zytor.com>
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> Lance Davis wrote:
> > On Mon, 16 Apr 2007, J.H. wrote:
> >
> >> Kernel.org would is completely willing.
> >>
> >> However would it not make more sense to just set up a second rsync
> >> target and explicitly exclude *DVD* or something akin to that so that
> >> those not wanting the DVD's got everything BUT the dvd isos?  That
> might
> >> be a lot quicker and simpler than doing a hard linked set of trees.
> >
> > Yes, that is fine. We hardlink the trees for other reasons (although
> > they escape me at the moment :)
> >
>
> Both are pretty ridiculous, quite frankly.
>
> Settle on a standard --exclude pattern, and you don't need two trees of
> any sort.
>
> Currently, I believe --exclude *-DVD.iso should work, but --exclude
> *-DVD*.iso might be a better (future-proof) pattern.
>
> One can easily export two different rsync modules with and without DVD
> images, if that's at all desirable, simply by putting the exclude
> pattern in rsyncd.conf.
>
>         -hpa
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 2
> Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2007 09:32:12 -0700
> From: "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa at zytor.com>
> Subject: Re: [CentOS-mirror] Status of dvd iso for CentOS mirrors.
> To: "Mailing list for CentOS mirrors." <centos-mirror at centos.org>
> Message-ID: <4624F68C.6070303 at zytor.com>
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> J.H. wrote:
> >
> > Basically
> >
> >> But what would be the difference ?? - ok I guess they are more specific
> >> as to what you are going to get, and you may be able to give a
> different
> >> bandwidth path ??
> >
> > The difference being, when releases happen the public doesn't see what's
> > being released, where as the mirrors need to be able to see it.  I.E.
> >
> > rw------- <user> <group> centos/5.0
> >
> > Would still be invisible during mirror propagation (rsync user is set as
> > a generic user without permission to access the folder) while the
> > mirrors connecting would be able to.  That is the main difference,
> > otherwise 99% of the time the two would return the same data.  Also
> > means that I can have two separate pools of connections say 10 - 20
> > slots for mirrors and say a hundred for normal downloading which gives a
> > mirror a MUCH better chance of getting into and downloading things vs.
> > the general public.
> >
>
> FWIW, please use drwxr-x--- as the mode for "bit not yet flipped";
> otherwise rsync has to run as the mirroring user to allow access for
> mirrors.
>
>         -hpa
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 3
> Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2007 11:45:46 -0500
> From: Bill Glick <wglick at ncsa.uiuc.edu>
> Subject: [CentOS-mirror] New Mirror
> To: centos-mirror at centos.org
> Message-ID: <4624F9BA.4040303 at ncsa.uiuc.edu>
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>
> HTTP: http://mirror.ncsa.uiuc.edu/centos/
> FTP: No
> Rsync: No
> Sync times: 3x per day
> Releases: ALL
> ISOs: Yes
> Location: Urbana, IL, US
> Bandwidth: 760Mb/s (currently limited to 100Mb/s)
>
> Sponsoring Organization: National Center for Supercomputing Applications
>   URL: http://www.ncsa.uiuc.edu/
>   Contact Email: mirror at ncsa.uiuc.edu
>
>
> I'm concerned that some of the images in the HEADER.images folder aren't
> rsyncing.  Any idea why that's happening?
>
>
> --
> Bill Glick
> System Engineer, Production Services Infrastructure
> NCSA - University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 4
> Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2007 18:56:19 +0100
> From: Nuno Vieira - nfsi telecom <nuno.vieira at nfsi.pt>
> Subject: Re: [CentOS-mirror] Status of dvd iso for CentOS mirrors.
> To: "Mailing list for CentOS mirrors." <centos-mirror at centos.org>
> Message-ID: <EB65FB1D-4F41-4293-82AB-39B2AFB9E0CD at nfsi.pt>
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> Hello Lance,
>
> Can you please clarify how can i sync the dvd's from ?
>
> I am trying to use eu-msync.centos.org::::CentOS-sync-incdvd and
> msync.centos.org::::CentOS-sync-incdvd without any success.
>
> regards,
> --nvieira
>
>
> On Apr 17, 2007, at 3:08 AM, Lance Davis wrote:
>
> > ::CentOS-sync-incdvd
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 5
> Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2007 21:34:03 +0200
> From: Olivier Thauvin <nanardon at nanardon.zarb.org>
> Subject: Re: [CentOS-mirror] Status of dvd iso for CentOS mirrors.
> To: "Mailing list for CentOS mirrors." <centos-mirror at centos.org>
> Message-ID: <200704172134.06758.nanardon at nanardon.zarb.org>
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> Le Monday 16 April 2007, Olivier Thauvin a écrit:
> > Le Sunday 15 April 2007, Lance Davis a écrit:
>
> > My server (distrib-coffee) can host and share via ftp/http/rsync DVD
> iso,
> > it already does it for mandriva (and it is running a mandriva 2007
> 64bits).
>
> distrib-coffee has now all DVD iso sync from Tier1 mirrors.
>
> Regards.
>
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> Message: 6
> Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2007 22:32:19 -0500
> From: Brian Elliott Finley <finley at anl.gov>
> Subject: Re: [CentOS-mirror] Status of dvd iso for CentOS mirrors.
> To: "Mailing list for CentOS mirrors." <centos-mirror at centos.org>
> Message-ID: <46259143.9090506 at anl.gov>
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> I agree with hpa on the --exclude pattern bit.
>
> -Brian
>
>
> Nuno Vieira - nfsi telecom wrote:
> > Hello Lance,
> >
> > Can you please clarify how can i sync the dvd's from ?
> >
> > I am trying to use eu-msync.centos.org::::CentOS-sync-incdvd and
> > msync.centos.org::::CentOS-sync-incdvd without any success.
> >
> > regards,
> > --nvieira
> >
> >
> > On Apr 17, 2007, at 3:08 AM, Lance Davis wrote:
> >
> >> ::CentOS-sync-incdvd
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > CentOS-mirror mailing list
> > CentOS-mirror at centos.org
> > http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-mirror
> >
>
> --
> Brian Elliott Finley
> Linux Strategist, CIS
> Desk: 630.252.4742
> Cell: 630.631.6621
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 7
> Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2007 22:37:07 -0500
> From: Brian Elliott Finley <finley at anl.gov>
> Subject: Re: [CentOS-mirror] Status of dvd iso for CentOS mirrors.
> To: "Mailing list for CentOS mirrors." <centos-mirror at centos.org>
> Message-ID: <46259263.1070502 at anl.gov>
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>
> I'll second nvieira's question -- after all this discussion, what is the
> proper URI for syncing, including the DVD ISOs?  We're currently syncing
> everything else just fine.
>
> If you need IPs for acls, please use these:
>
>     146.137.96.12
>     146.137.96.64
>
> Either machine might do the syncing, but only one is configured as the
> active sync machine on any given day.
>
> -Brian
>
>
> Nuno Vieira - nfsi telecom wrote:
> > Hello Lance,
> >
> > Can you please clarify how can i sync the dvd's from ?
> >
> > I am trying to use eu-msync.centos.org::::CentOS-sync-incdvd and
> > msync.centos.org::::CentOS-sync-incdvd without any success.
> >
> > regards,
> > --nvieira
> >
> >
> > On Apr 17, 2007, at 3:08 AM, Lance Davis wrote:
> >
> >> ::CentOS-sync-incdvd
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > CentOS-mirror mailing list
> > CentOS-mirror at centos.org
> > http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-mirror
> >
>
> --
> Brian Elliott Finley
> Linux Strategist, CIS
> Desk: 630.252.4742
> Cell: 630.631.6621
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 8
> Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2007 09:05:26 +0200
> From: Lars Strand <larstra at ifi.uio.no>
> Subject: Re: [CentOS-mirror] Status of dvd iso for CentOS mirrors.
> To: "Mailing list for CentOS mirrors." <centos-mirror at centos.org>
> Message-ID: <20070418070526.GA14887 at gnist.org>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf8
>
> On tir, 17 apr 2007, H. Peter Anvin wrote:
>
> >
> > Both are pretty ridiculous, quite frankly.
> >
> > Settle on a standard --exclude pattern, and you don't need two trees of
> > any sort.
> >
> > Currently, I believe --exclude *-DVD.iso should work, but --exclude
> > *-DVD*.iso might be a better (future-proof) pattern.
> >
> > One can easily export two different rsync modules with and without DVD
> > images, if that's at all desirable, simply by putting the exclude
> > pattern in rsyncd.conf.
> >
>
> I totaly agree. It's simpler for CentOS to administrer ONE single
> repository, and easier for all of us have one repository to deal with.
> Most of us have enough disk space for the DVD isos anyway. Those who
> don't, can use a exclude pattern - which can be documentet on the
> CentOS mirroring howto page:
>
>   http://www.centos.org/modules/tinycontent/index.php?id=22
>
> It more KISS and most Linux distributions do this, so why can't
> CentOS?
>
> --
> Lars Strand
> GnuPG/PGP Key: http://www.gnist.org/~lars/pubkey.asc  ID: 972F4325
> "The Internet? Is that thing still around?"  -- Homer Simpson
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 9
> Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2007 03:23:04 -0500
> From: Johnny Hughes <mailing-lists at hughesjr.com>
> Subject: Re: [CentOS-mirror] Status of dvd iso for CentOS mirrors.
> To: "Mailing list for CentOS mirrors." <centos-mirror at centos.org>
> Message-ID: <1176884584.3379.356.camel at myth.home.local>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>
> On Wed, 2007-04-18 at 09:05 +0200, Lars Strand wrote:
> > On tir, 17 apr 2007, H. Peter Anvin wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > Both are pretty ridiculous, quite frankly.
> > >
> > > Settle on a standard --exclude pattern, and you don't need two trees
> of
> > > any sort.
> > >
> > > Currently, I believe --exclude *-DVD.iso should work, but --exclude
> > > *-DVD*.iso might be a better (future-proof) pattern.
> > >
> > > One can easily export two different rsync modules with and without DVD
> > > images, if that's at all desirable, simply by putting the exclude
> > > pattern in rsyncd.conf.
> > >
> >
> > I totaly agree. It's simpler for CentOS to administrer ONE single
> > repository, and easier for all of us have one repository to deal with.
> > Most of us have enough disk space for the DVD isos anyway. Those who
> > don't, can use a exclude pattern - which can be documentet on the
> > CentOS mirroring howto page:
> >
> >   http://www.centos.org/modules/tinycontent/index.php?id=22
> >
> > It more KISS and most Linux distributions do this, so why can't
> > CentOS?
>
> Well ... we have several (20-30) internal centos mirrors that we use to
> distribute the CentOS to the world ... and those mirrors do not all have
> the DVD on them because we do not have the drive space available on
> those donated servers to put all the DVDs on.  We do not want to loose
> half of our mirror bandwidth because we put DVDs in the mainline tree.
>
> As for external mirrors, I think it would be nice for you to provide 2
> targets (one with and one without DVDs) if you carry the DVDs, but it
> should not be hard to tell people to exclude DVDs if they don't want
> them.
>
> In a perfect world, CentOS could just have one tree because all our
> internal servers would have > 1TB of storage space and everything would
> fit on each mirror ... in the real world our internal servers are
> donated and we get whatever the donor has to offer and we use it in as
> many ways as we can to distribute CentOS to millions of people :P
>
> I hope this makes it easier to understand why the DVDs are a subset on
> the CentOS mirrors at least.
>
> Thanks,
> Johnny Hughes
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> Message: 10
> Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2007 09:31:18 +0100
> From: Nuno Vieira - nfsi telecom <nuno.vieira at nfsi.pt>
> Subject: Re: [CentOS-mirror] Status of dvd iso for CentOS mirrors.
> To: "Mailing list for CentOS mirrors." <centos-mirror at centos.org>
> Message-ID: <A8A7904C-CBD8-4E6C-BC4B-35AA599F7E8B at nfsi.pt>
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> Hi Johnny,
>
> Can you send me some samples of how to mirror the DVD tree ? (i
> believe that other persons in this list, with the same problem, will
> thank aswell)
>
> If needed, our IP is 81.92.200.26
>
> thanks in advance.
>
> cheers,
> --nvieira
>
>
> On Apr 18, 2007, at 9:23 AM, Johnny Hughes wrote:
>
> > On Wed, 2007-04-18 at 09:05 +0200, Lars Strand wrote:
> >> On tir, 17 apr 2007, H. Peter Anvin wrote:
> >>
> >>>
> >>> Both are pretty ridiculous, quite frankly.
> >>>
> >>> Settle on a standard --exclude pattern, and you don't need two
> >>> trees of
> >>> any sort.
> >>>
> >>> Currently, I believe --exclude *-DVD.iso should work, but --exclude
> >>> *-DVD*.iso might be a better (future-proof) pattern.
> >>>
> >>> One can easily export two different rsync modules with and
> >>> without DVD
> >>> images, if that's at all desirable, simply by putting the exclude
> >>> pattern in rsyncd.conf.
> >>>
> >>
> >> I totaly agree. It's simpler for CentOS to administrer ONE single
> >> repository, and easier for all of us have one repository to deal
> >> with.
> >> Most of us have enough disk space for the DVD isos anyway. Those who
> >> don't, can use a exclude pattern - which can be documentet on the
> >> CentOS mirroring howto page:
> >>
> >>   http://www.centos.org/modules/tinycontent/index.php?id=22
> >>
> >> It more KISS and most Linux distributions do this, so why can't
> >> CentOS?
> >
> > Well ... we have several (20-30) internal centos mirrors that we
> > use to
> > distribute the CentOS to the world ... and those mirrors do not all
> > have
> > the DVD on them because we do not have the drive space available on
> > those donated servers to put all the DVDs on.  We do not want to loose
> > half of our mirror bandwidth because we put DVDs in the mainline tree.
> >
> > As for external mirrors, I think it would be nice for you to provide 2
> > targets (one with and one without DVDs) if you carry the DVDs, but it
> > should not be hard to tell people to exclude DVDs if they don't want
> > them.
> >
> > In a perfect world, CentOS could just have one tree because all our
> > internal servers would have > 1TB of storage space and everything
> > would
> > fit on each mirror ... in the real world our internal servers are
> > donated and we get whatever the donor has to offer and we use it in as
> > many ways as we can to distribute CentOS to millions of people :P
> >
> > I hope this makes it easier to understand why the DVDs are a subset on
> > the CentOS mirrors at least.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Johnny Hughes
> > _______________________________________________
> > CentOS-mirror mailing list
> > CentOS-mirror at centos.org
> > http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-mirror
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 11
> Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2007 12:32:31 +0200
> From: Guido Nickels <mirrors at intergenia.de>
> Subject: Re: [CentOS-mirror] Syncing of CentOS 5 to mirrors.
> To: "Mailing list for CentOS mirrors." <centos-mirror at centos.org>
> Message-ID: <1176892351.26658.25.camel at gsn.intergenia.de>
> Content-Type: text/plain
>
> Am Mittwoch, den 11.04.2007, 23:52 +0100 schrieb Lance Davis:
> >
> > The sync seems to be going apace now - we aim to release tomorrow.
> >
> > Please would mirrors that have synced and have approx 20GB in the
> > centos/5.0/ tree email this list to confirm.
>
> sorry for being late... centos.intergenia.de is in sync for CentOS 5.0
> repos. We had some issue regarding permissions of the 5.0 directory but
> that's fixed and tested now.
>
> Cheers!
>
> Guido
>
> Guido S. Nickels
> intergenia Webhosting AG, Operations
>
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