Dag Wieers schrieb: > On Mon, 16 Jun 2008, wonderer wrote: > >> Dag Wieers schrieb: >>> On Mon, 16 Jun 2008, wonderer wrote: >>> >>>> I read over the ToDo List and have some points to mention and hope >>>> its ok: >>> >>> Certainly, I made that list to encourage anyone to help out. So I >>> guess you were my target audience :) >>> >>> >>>> The following tasks needs one or more owners: >>>> >>>> * Create appealing screenshots for the website, articles or events >>>> >>>> additional: take pictures from events... >>> >>> Right, we have pictures of events taken, but none of them have been >>> put online in a structured manner :) So where do we want to put those ? >> A Gallery within the wiki, if this are not to many pictures they can >> put in directly, etc. >>> >>> Is the wiki a good place to put a few photo's of every event ? >> For the first shot, yes! Then we can see if there is a need for a >> more and more structured Picture Archive. >> My experiences with other OpenSource Projects told me there will be >> up to 3 or maybe 5 Images per Event that fit in an "Online Gallery of >> the Event"... >> But as you say: if nobody do it, it would not be done ;-) > > We need to mail all the people involved in previous events that may > have pictures. done here, soon over other chanels. > > Also, it would be nice if we could make a wiki-template with some > basic information, a photo, responsibilities, etc, and encourage every > Wiki contributor to provide that information. And then have some sort > of Team or Community page that lists all of them including the picture. > > It would bring some human touch into the wiki. People sometimes forget > this is made by inviduals like themself. ACK. > >>> I think we should do education more than promotion. Most people have >>> no clue what Enterprise Linux is and why they should pay attention >>> to it. >>> >> Thats the other part: >> some ideas on articles or better HowTos: >> - wich Enterprise Linux should I choose - why, how?! (HowTo and >> Presentation for Event) >> - how to use CentOS for Business (Presentation for Events) >> - how to build a CentOS Intranet (HowTo) >> - what do I need for my personal CentOS Desktop? >> - any other ideas? > > - how to build a media-center/voip/home automation > > So many other interesting things that first need a knowledgable > presenter and only secondly a good presentation :) i made the difference between presentation and HowTo. For a Presentation the Speaker does not have the knowledge in deep, that should be handled in the wiki-HowTo and on irc or other support chanel. > >>>> * Contact magazines for CentOS related articles or include CentOS >>>> media >>>> >>>> Therefore CentOS should have ready made press kit (could work out >>>> something). >>> >>> Yes, we need a press-kit. >>> >> Ok, I will work a draft version out, ok?! :-) >> Therefore I need maybe some more infos about CentOS itself. Who can I >> "interview" about that? > > Depends on what information you need. Why not ask the questions here > and get the responsible people involved ? Done ;-) > >>>> * Contact publishers (of Fedora/RHEL books) to include CentOS on >>>> cover, in print or as media >>>> >>>> additional: contact Writers and ask to work out the CentOS related >>>> parts. >>> >>> Right, go over the current RHEL and Fedora books and make sure we >>> can improve the part about CentOS. >> Additional question: Do we have a ready made VMWare Image elsewhere >> online? If not shall we build some and put it on VMWare? > > VMware has a repository of images, I guess it belongs there. The point > is, what is the image used for. All use-cases would have their own image. Not necessary. I mean http://www.vmware.com/appliances/ . There could be a standard VMWare Image (or also Xen, but I did not know such a place for Xen Images...) with VMWare Tools installed and some other packages. For promotion very good, because the CentOS Logo and other information could be implemented.... > >>>> * Create and maintain pages about how to install CentOS on your >>>> laptop >>>> >>>> additional: Install CentOS under VMWare. >>> >>> Yes, both are probably not really part of the promo SIG but I >>> considered it important :) I started it, but it is not as successful >>> as it could be. Maybe new additions to the Laptop page could make it >>> to CWN as well to drive that a bit too ? :) >> >> Yes :-) >> >> Ok, I see a bit clearer. So my thought is (I hope I'm right about >> that) that there are several parts to deal with (I did'nt think that >> my little question will make such waves..) >> - Artwork SIG: make some more Pics like >> http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/centos/ >> -> Question: can we move these banners over to CentOS (wiki)? > > We should definitely ask him. On the other hand, there was some > negative criticism that this is NOT the CentOS logo and therefor > should NOT be used. > > The problem in our community is this: Since we have no real voting > mechanism, a negative voice often blocks a proposal while a positive > voice may not be heard. > > As long as we have no rules for decision-making, there is no > decision-making... So, there is a need for it I see ;-) Styleguide is in work ;-) > > >> - Promotion: make an updated ToDo List with prioritys and people who >> can work on it > > Go ahead. dont have write permissions at this time ;-) I'l post it later here ... > > >> - work on presentations and promo stuff > > We are doing that everytime there is a need for it. We could use more > people doing more presentations and adding more content. The subsentence "there is no need for it" I did not read here ;-) There is ALWAYS need. The question is when and how much ;-) > > >> - Flyers, Posters > > We need people that want to help with the Artwork SIG. That one is > dead for some time now. Also, a better planning in between events > would help get better promotional material in time for events. I build up an event checklist.Suggestions ... > > We often want to do a lot, but because we are all volunteers our time > is limited. We have been doing a good job until now, but we definitely > could do better in the future. If you look at the progress we made, I > think LinuxTag 2008 shows how we improved, both with the booth as well > with presentations. > I know that ;-) ... Better as you think... > >> Are there any "Projects" for / with CentOS we can promote more? any >> Cluster or school project or so? > > As the promotional team we should encourage people to set up projects > and report back about it. A cluster-related SIG or a school-related > SIG would be nice, but it would also require a lot of > resources/volunteers to be competitive in those areas. > If somebody in a company has the idea to work out a project they do not think necessary to speak to the CentOS Team... We do not need for all Projects SIGs and THATs ...Its a matter on how stuff works: - Mister xyz build up a CentOS Server, buidl a nice package or script, make a blog entry or whatever - Promo SIG read about it, hear about it - Promo SIG asks a) Mister xyz how CentOS can help (if projects at first steps) or how CentOS can promote the project - Promo in progress So, ALL the readers here should have this in mind i guess and if elsewhere something happens a Mail here comes in... Another point is the "how could I help" area. I did'nt read about it elsewhere on the main CentOS Website, nor the wiki... - how can I donate - how can I participate - how can I help Therefore: areas, Buttons, Benefits? cheers Henrik P.S.: have only dag and I a dialog here ;-) ?