Apologies. The Chardonnay (white wine) influenced my attention to detail. > Paypal charges : 106.24 For British contributors would it not be better for Centos to have a (free) British bank account into which subscribers could pay fee-less (using Internet banking)? Paypal and Ebay are expensive commercial rip-offs. Similarly Centos could have one Euro area bank account for payments, again avoiding expensive Paypal commissions. Perhaps a similar arrangement could be concluded in the rest of the world. What would, I believe, be desirable is a discreet label badge showing the Centos logo. Not every Centos user wants ghastly Centos modern-style logos (Ninjus ?) but all Centos users are likely to be united in expressing their appreciation to perhaps the biggest world-wide free non-Micro$oft operating system. The youngsters tastes (KB for instance) are likely to be different from the older Centos users' tastes. This means a modern crap or ghastly logo may not appeal to older Centos users. However I believe we are all united by the excellence of the product and are intrinsically grateful to the volunteers who continue to give us the last versions of a very successful (and superior I think to Windoze) world-class operating system. A 2.54cm square (1" to the British and Americans) Centos logo which one could attach to one's machines would be nice.