[CentOS-virt] XEN and RH 6

Tue Nov 10 14:26:27 UTC 2009
Pasi Kärkkäinen <pasik at iki.fi>

On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 01:36:32PM +0100, carlopmart wrote:
> Pasi Kärkkäinen wrote:
> > On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 01:20:11PM +0100, carlopmart wrote:
> >> Pasi Kärkkäinen wrote:
> >>> On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 11:27:57AM +0100, carlopmart wrote:
> >>>> Pasi Kärkkäinen wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>>> Still it isn't official, but Citrix XenServer will disappears soon ... It will be 
> >>>>>> integrated under Microsoft Hyper-V ....
> >>>>>>
> >>>>> Uhm.. I don't believe this. Where did you read that? 
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Citrix XenServer was opensourced last week, or the hypervisor+tools
> >>>>> part, the xencenter management interface remains closed source (but it
> >>>>> can also manage hyper-v).
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> IMHO, it isn't a good option to maintain domO virt servers based on CentOS or RHEL 
> >>>>>> now ... It is the time to migrate to another solutions ...
> >>>>>>
> >>>>> RHEL5, with Xen, will be fully supported by Redhat until 2014. They have
> >>>>> clearly stated that many times.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> -- Pasi
> >>>> Ok, I think I haven't explained well, sorry. Citrix Xenserver's hypervisor and tools 
> >>>> was donated by Citrix last week, correct. But Citrix didn't release more versions of 
> >>>> the product because it does not intend to develop it and apply new features. Citrix 
> >>>> virtualization bussiness will be focused only on Management and Desktop 
> >>>> virtualization using Hper-V as a first platform and second VMware.
> >>>>
> >>> Where did you read this? You write it like it's a fact - I haven't seen
> >>> that anywhere.. ??
> >> This will be announced over next weeks ...
> >>
> > 
> > Again, are you speculating, or is this a fact? I think Citrix XenServer 5.7
> > will be released soon :)
> 
> Ok, stay and wait. But I repeat: Citrix will focused his efforts only on Management 
> and Desktop virtualization, not on servers. First past it is do it: donate xenserver 
> to opesource community.
> 

http://blog.xen.org/index.php/2009/11/02/simon-crosby-explains-citrixs-open-source-xenserver-move/

Simon Crosby is the CTO of Citrix/Xensource.

Interview here:
http://searchservervirtualization.techtarget.com/generic/0,295582,sid94_gci1372894,00.html?asrc=SS_CLA_failover&psrc=CLT_94

Direct MP3 download link of the interview:
http://ehg-techtarget.hitbox.com/redirector.mp3?hb=DM560429E9VV83EN3;DM5212204PCA83EN3&cv.c4=DL|PODCAST_twiv1030.mp3&cd=1&n=/podcast=&vcon=/searchServerVirtualization/podcasts&hec=0&vjs=HBX0200u&fn=http://media.techtarget.com/audioCast/DATA_CENTER/twiv1030.mp3&target=http://media.techtarget.com/audioCast/DATA_CENTER/twiv1030.mp3

Quote from the interview (hopefully I got all the words correctly):

"Q: Citrix already gives away XenServer for free, so how do you plan 
to make money in the market, and how would you respond to those who 
say that by making XenServer free and now mostly opensource, 
Citrix is basicly conceding the server virtualization market to VMware and
Microsoft."

"A: Yeah, Anything but giving it away. 
"A: Last quarter we added 25 000 customers"

Just listen to the interview yourself.


> > 
> > RHEL5 will be transferred to 'maintenance' mode after a while.. the
> > feature that are there now will be there in the future aswell.
> > 
> > Btw. the earlier list of options didn't list Novell SLES11.. it has
> > pretty good implementation of Xen aswell (Xen 3.4.1 + 2.6.27 dom0 kernel).
> > 
> > -- Pasi
> 
> I have a serious doubts about Novell and Oracle will do about Xen. We need to wait ...
>

Both Novell and Oracle having been deeply involved in Xen lately, both
are developing and supporting their own products based on Xen.

-- Pasi