Ok, this has been kicking my @$$ for weeks. I'm trying to get some kind of bandwidth shaping working on my server. I need to throttle ftp down so as not to suck up all the available bandwidth. I had cbq working on the old server (an ancient RH 6.2 box) so I figured I'd just move the config over and get cbq.init from sf.net and it should work. Unfortunately it doesn't. At least it doesn't work to the extent that no throttling of ftp is being done. So next I thought I'd try htb (as someone here mentioned it as an alternative). After printing out the entire section on bandwidth management from the lartc documentation I still can't seem to get anything working. I think I'm at the "forest/trees" point where I've been banging my head against this so much I'm missing something obvious. So, if anyone out there could lend a hand (or more precisely a pair of eyes) I would be greatly appreciative. To save list bandwidth, send replies to me and once I get things working I'll post a summery, with full credit attribution, to the list. Thanks in advance, Joe -- My Useless Vanity Page - http://www.webtrek.com/joe See my blog, sumo game ranks and other interesting junk