On Wed, 2005-08-24 at 01:30, Mike McCarty wrote: > How so? Linus Torvald published the Linux(R) kernel some time back. > Later, he trademarked the name "Linux". Now, he is enforcing the > trademark. If he pushes things (and he may have to, if the trademark > is to survive) he may have to require that anyone republishing his > stuff, even under GPL, remove the string, even from source, and > even if it doesn't appear in the object. Which I think presents an interesting paradox. In publishing something under the GPL, Linus has already given everyone who has a copy the right to redistribute verbatim or changed copies as long as the GPL requirements are met (part of which includes a statement that no additional restrictions can apply). So, prior to the establishment of the trademark, the right to redistribute copies including the name has been given away. In fact, I don't see how you could meet the requirement of keeping copyright notices intact for the linux kernel without calling it linux. And I'd expect it to be very difficult to remove the name from the source code and keep it working. There might be a special case here since Linus still controls the trademark, but suppose it survives him and falls into the wrong hands. Suppose, for the worst case example, SCO owned the trademark. What could we expect then? When I was developing stuff under AT&T SysV UNIX years ago I would never have guessed what was going to happen to ownership of that code/name/trademark. Does the GPL really provide the irrevokable protection it claims in spite of any subsequent attempts that might be made to limit use/redistribution? -- Les Mikesell lesmikesell at gmail.com