this was in my financial news today. http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/nf/20051206/bs_nf/39937 if i may inquire, is anyone here using this effectively and reliably on CentOS? ive seen some other threads yet didnt pay but cursory attention - rh -- Robert Hanson - Abba Communications Computer & Internet Services (509) 624-7159 - www.abbacomm.net