"William A. Mahaffey III" <wam at HiWAAY.net> wrote: > Where did you get the Sempron-64's ? > I thought only HP/IBM/etc had access to those .... Heck, you can't get anything but the Sempron 64 for Socket-754 now. Once Intel started selling the Celeron with EM64T, AMD stopped crippling the Socket-754 Semprons. Even better is that the two (2) I just got are the full Rev. E units with SSE3 and everything. Not bad for $75! Maybe you're thinking of the Socket-939 Semprons? I haven't seen those other than that one, new HP Sempron S939 3200+. Remember, Socket-939 *AND* Socket-754 are Athlon 64 capable. It's only the old Socket-A/462 that is not. ;-> Peter Farrow <peter at farrows.org> wrote: > socket 754 is phasing out... Everything's being "phased out" next year, although I thought the Socket-754 was still going to be used as a "value" solution for remaining DDR Hammer x86-64 cores/stock(?). Others have stated that Socket-939 is going to be the new Sempron, but I've seen info that Socket-754 is where the value will stay. So who knows? BTW, as Peter Arremann posted over on the AMD64 list: https://www.redhat.com/archives/amd64-list/2005-December/msg00103.html XbitLabs just posted AMD's 2006Q2 plans scheduled for April 6th, 2006: http://www.xbitlabs.com/news/cpu/display/20051214062233.html Socket-754 1xDDR -> Socket-"S1"/638 1xDDR2** Socket-939 2xDDR -> Socket-"M2"/940 2xDDR2 Socket-940 2xDDR -> Socket-"F"/1207 2xDDR2 **NOTE: There were mentions of the Socket-S1/638 being marketed as dual-DDR2, despite being only a single 240-trace DDR2 channel. I think it's still single DDR, but uses dual-DDR interleaving over a single channel like Socket-423/478 and Socket-A/462 were. In any case, this is probably a discussion left for the Red Hat AMD64 list instead of here. Feel free to join ... (I did back when must of the existing Alpha/AXP list migrated over in 2003): https://www.redhat.com/archives/amd64-list/index.html -- Bryan J. Smith b.j.smith at ieee.org http://thebs413.blogspot.com --------------------------------------------------------------- "On the basis of the American view, which may be right, the success of the Iraqi political experiment is bound to provide a model to be emulated in Syria and in the various countries neighbouring Iraq" -- Nur-Al-Din, Al-Safir (Lebanon Periocial)