Vote for CentOS thread is now a lost cause and I was sure many of you are ignoring it, hence this new thread to get your attention. Most of us simply underestimate the time and effort that goes into maintaining CentOS. While recognising the enormous contribution of Redhat to opensource, its also high time for us to thank(and donate if possible, which I cant in the near future) CentOS maintainers for doing whatever they have been doing so far and hope that Redhat accepts the existance of this project and finds a way to utilize it for good of both. It may not be posible for us to push CentOS to the top of this year's favouraite lists due to the sheer number of users accumulated by other distro's in their many years of existance (ubuntu being a exception). So lets start now and be done with the thankyou notes as soon as possible and let some sanity return to this mailing list. THANKS GUYS :) Quoting Johnny Hughes <mailing-lists at hughesjr.com>: > > --=-+b21QgMYp1Hp7hcicwPL > Content-Type: text/plain > Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > > On Fri, 2005-06-03 at 07:33 -0400, Simon Perreault wrote: >> On Thursday 02 June 2005 19:31, Johnny Hughes wrote: >> > No ... not at all. RedHat does not spend any time making sure that the >> > people who use CentOS can get free updates. >> =20 >> I think you will agree with me that the amount of work Red Hat put on Cen= > tOS=20 >> (by way of RHEL) is much more significant than the work put on CentOS by=20 >> CentOS volunteers. That is not to say that the work of CentOS volunteers = > is=20 >> not to be appreciated. Don't get all worked up for nothing. > > I am a little touchy on this subject ... being that I hear it so often. > > I disagree ... the work that RedHat put into RHEL is significant. It is > a great distro, and worthy to win this award and many others ... but so > is CentOS. > > If you think RHEL is a BETTER distro than CentOS, you should vote that > way. > > BUT ... they didn't put any work into CentOS. All their work was put > into RHEL. They are compensated fairly well for that work too, I might > add. > > I, on the other hand, spend an average of 8-12 hours a day on CentOS > related activities. As does Karanbir Singh (z00dax on IRC). Most of > the other developers spend almost as much time as well. Not only do we > not get paid anything for doing that, some of us end up having to pay > for centos related things (I have increased my bandwidth, bought compile > platforms, changed my home network infrastructure, etc. to be able to > better build CentOS and decrease the release times, at my own expense). > This is because people using CentOS won't donate even $1, one time, to > the project....oh well, such is life. > > As pointed out many times before on this list, RedHat is a great > company, and they do a lot of things for the OSS community ... but they > are not the "owners" of the code that CentOS uses. They get almost all > the items they publish from somewhere else. They are required, > therefore, to make their source code public. They take that requirement > seriously, and they do an outstanding job of publishing their source > code openly. They should be commended for that. I do it every chance I > get :) > > They published their Source code, as required by the GPL. They added > Trademark requirements. We took their GPL work, modified it to comply > with their Trademark requirements (we actually go much further than > their stated requirements), and to created a distro. A significant > amount of their packages have to be modified to build properly ... all > of them have to be reviewed. > > Using your logic, The only people who would get credit are the > programmers who write the code for the parent projects. Or the Fedora > Core volunteers who actually package and test probably 95% of the stuff > that get into RHEL. > > So no, I don't think that you should vote for RHEL in a place where > CentOS is also listed ... any more than I think you should vote for > Debian if you use Ubuntu. If CentOS isn't in that poll, then voting for > RHEL would be fine. Now, if someone feels that RHEL is a better Distro > than CentOS (as distributed) ... then they should absolutely vote for > RHEL instead of CentOS. > > That is, of course, only my opinion. You have yours. We are both > entitled to our own. Neither is right or wrong. > > --=-+b21QgMYp1Hp7hcicwPL > Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc > Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: GnuPG v1.2.6 (GNU/Linux) > > iD8DBQBCoFG2TKkMgmrBY7MRAnLYAKCxuUUpdhbd+Gmqi+uyLQ/ms8N3QwCfee7t > M7x/K/qA0Yg59loKRKuFPQs= > =oyQc > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > > --=-+b21QgMYp1Hp7hcicwPL-- > >