Les Mikesell wrote: > On Mon, 2005-05-23 at 22:41, Bryan J. Smith wrote: > >>On Mon, 2005-05-23 at 11:38 -0500, Les Mikesell wrote: >> >>>I take it you didn't run CIPE vpn's among any of those 30 machines or >>>you'd still be on FC1. >> >>Actually, Fedora Core 2 wasn't the only distro that dropped it. >>There were a lot of issues with CIPE and kernel 2.6 -- many that were >>not solved in the first 6 months of 2.6's release, by the time Fedora >>Core 2 came out. The first half-way reliable patches were for 2.6.6, >>which was a month after about Fedora Core 2 came out (with 2.6.5). > > > Yes, I know the history - I just have a knee-jerk reaction when > someone says they upgrade frequently and never have problems. It > really just means they weren't using any of the features that > changed or went away. :) Yeah, I personally don't mind the frequent upgrades but others on my team and my manager go bonkers with this sort of thing. So it looks like I will have to move to CentOS 4 for the said 30 and more machines. Either way, tweaking is needed so I don't see the point of staying on CentOS 4. The kernel needs to be recompiled for XFS support and that means a recompile for every errata kernel release. ext3 + dir_index support is still too heavy although I don't relish a crash on XFS either. > > >>Fedora Core 2 was definitely a "revolutionary" .0, and things break, and >>Fedora Core 3 was more of an "evolutionary" .1 based on changes done in >>Fedora Core 2. So what you're seeing is _no_different_ than typical Red >>Hat Linux .0 release before. People today are still bitching about the >>GLibC 2.0 change of Red Hat Linux 5.0, and the forced ANSI C++ >>compliance with the adoption of GCC 2.96/3.0 in Red Hat Linux 7. > > > Except that it still isn't fixed now that it easily could be. If > you want CIPE in Fedora >1 or Centos 4, you have to recompile > the kernel to make it work. OpenVPN is probably better these days > but that's not included either and unlike a lot of other packages, > for this one you have to coordinate any changes across locations. > I guess this means CIPE has not made it to the mainline kernel. With Fedora, Redhat does less patches and pushes more upstream.