[CentOS] SELinux threads, cynicism, one-upmanship, etc.

Chris Mauritz chrism at imntv.com
Thu Nov 17 23:12:44 UTC 2005

Lamar Owen wrote:

>After reading through the various SELinux threads, I really became quite 
>perturbed.  I mean, really quite perturbed.

If you get perturbed over something so trivial, perhaps it's time to 
re-examine your priorities in life.  8-)

>As an IT Director (and the entire IT department, currently), if I were hiring 
>a sysadmin I know for a fact that someone whose first response to a question 
>on why something doesn't work is 'turn it off' would not get a job here.

Thank goodness I'm not an SA then.  I also run, and have run in the 
past, rather large IT departments.  I also started out my unix life as a 
SA.  Now that we've gotten that out of the way...SELinux shouldn't be 
turned on by default and in many cases simply creates extra 
overhead/bloat on a system that doesn't really need it.  Building a 
firewall?  Building a hardened box that's going to be exposed to the net 
at a datacenter?  Great, then it might be worth your while to wrestle 
with it and take the time to figure out why it's breaking your 
applications.  All the really good SAs I've ever had, tended to be 
somewhat frugal with their time and tended not to waste it on things 
they didn't absolutely need or that didn't somehow make their lives easier.

>Neither would a sysadmin with as much cynicism as has been displayed, or an 
>automatic 'it broke things' when something new (and in fact improved) comes 
>along get a job here.  Do realize that this list is archived, and that many 
>people who are hiring might use Google to find your name (or mine, for that 

Fantastic!  I'll also state for the record here that I won't dig 
ditches.  So any potential employer intending to hire me for ditch 
digging or sysadmining and is googling net archives can stop reading 
now.  *shrug*


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