[CentOS] [OT][Practices] The Case for RBAC/MAC

Bryan J. Smith thebs413 at earthlink.net
Fri Nov 18 15:07:08 UTC 2005

On Fri, 2005-11-18 at 06:55 -0800, Brian T. Brunner wrote:
> This concurs with my asserted point: e-mail is a personal skill.

If I was being paid to provide help here, I would NOT be providing it in

> Slightly beyond your grasp?  Who, pray tell, is my attacker?

Dude, I have _never_ asked you to explain yourself on RBAC/MAC.  That
was _other_ people.  Please do _not_ attribute what _they_ said to me.

I just said that I _disagree_ with your view that RBAC/MAC makes no
sense in some environments you work in.  That's all.  Why you have to
assert for me, for others, etc... in an "absolutist" view has been
_my_problem_ with your statements.

What you do for _your_ networks is what _you_ do.  Please, please re-
read what *I* said and what *OTHERS* said and do not confuse them.  I am
_not_ "attacking you."


Huh?  So you say that functionality is all that matters, and you don't
care if there is any compromise of the system as long as it works?
That's basically how I put it, and if you concur, that's fine by me.

> I've passed a cognitive coherence test from somebody
> whose methods of presentation in e-mail are sufficiently poor 
> that I SIMPLY DON'T CARE whether I pass his tests.

As I said, I am not here to judge what you do.  But I did not like your
belief that some of us who configure RBAC/MAC do it for no reason.

> Once again, I depart from this conversation.

Obviously because you can't differentiate between what *I* say and what
*OTHERS* say.

That too is a cognitive coherence test that you seem to have
_failed_repeatedly_ in your responses in this thread.  I should know, I
do it to at times, but at least I admit it.

I guess that's why some people just piggyback everything that is said to
me, _regardless_ if I said it or not -- because I'll admit to some
things.  So they hope other people have poor comprehension skills.

The old "moderation" thread comes to mind.  But remember, not everyone
is dumb here.  I would argue a great majority have better comprehension
skills than you or I.

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