[CentOS] A minor beef

Bryan J. Smith thebs413 at earthlink.net
Sat Nov 26 03:22:17 UTC 2005

On Fri, 2005-11-25 at 20:03 -0700, Collins Richey wrote:
> Very simple. No hangups in the update retrieval process. In the one
> case after 3-4 years experience, in the other case after 6 months
> experience.

I'd say you're doing pretty good then.

> As I have attempted to make clear at ervery turn to put
> this thread back on track, this has absolutely nothing to do with the
> merits of or the package selection philosophy of any these distros.

Then why bring them up?  You can't bring up another distro without
looking at various things that affect how you get your software.  Again,
Gentoo often does _not_ host may of its ports, but has you retrieve them
from other servers directly.

So far, you've stated:  
- No issues with CentOS until 4.2
- Various issues with DAG at different times

I don't see a "mechanical" problem here?

About the only thing I saw was the real probability that a mirror is not
close to you, or you are defaulting to a mirror far away.  Maybe the
other distros have a closer mirror.  In any case, based on _all_ of what
you said, I don't see a problem.

> Nor is it to be interpreted as any sort of putdown for CentOS. Nor is
> it intended to be the basis for any Red Hat vs. CentOS wrangling.

I just merely mentioned that I have received _excellent_ download
support from the RHN -- especially when the RHEL3U6 and RHEL4U2 releases
came out.

> It is merely a description of a "mechanical" problem on the one hand and
> the absence of this type of "mechanical" problem on the other hand.

Other distros.  I fail to see the relevance?

> The hope being, in the long run, that this type of information could
> be of benefit to CentOS in providing good delivery to all.

What "detailed information" did you provide that could help?  That's
what I'm wondering about!

> At least one respondent understood what I was trying to say from the getgo.

Since you have named so little specifics, none of us have much to go on.
All we know is that you get your updates without issues from Gentoo and
Ubuntu versus CentOS and/or DAG.

> As Johnny noted in his most recent posts, this could be difficulty in
> reaching one or more of the servers in the normal rotation from my
> site Or it could be something in my yum or repos setup.
> Also, Jim was kind enough to point out the yum plugin fastmirrors.

And if you gave some _samples_ of some of your issues, I might _also_
give you some insight into why you're running into download issues.

Instead, this is _all_ I had to go on ...

  "but the one deficiency I've found is the fact that one can
   never rely on being able to get updates at any particular time.
   Whether it's CentOS proper or the Dag additions, something is
   broke most every time I want to apply updates."

> My thanks to all who understood what I was trying to accomplish. I
> will make the changes Johnny recommended, and I will investigate the
> yum plugin.

I'm glad you've found something to try.

_Anytime_ you want to cut'n paste some runs, I'll be more than happy to
help you resolve them.  Until then, meta-discussions and "shots in the
dark" is all you'll get.

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