On Mon, 2005-11-14 at 11:41, Bryan J. Smith wrote: > The reality is that with SELinux, we don't trust software > _until_ they are explicitly allowed to access things. Modes > like "permissive" use the opposite that logic, and are more > compatible. > > Just like deny all outgoing firewalls block _all_ outbound > traffic, _until_ they are explicitly allowed. And why most > people just enable allow all outgoing (including every single > SOHO device you'll find at the superstore). > > Do you understand now? I think the point you are both making is that you can't use either of these tools unless you have someone with not much else to do but baby-sit them or you can get along without the services they deny (and that you may not know about yet). -- Les Mikesell lesmikesell at gmail.com