On Mon, 2005-11-14 at 19:38 -0700, Craig White wrote: > I'm not sure why you would interpret my expressing puzzlement as meaning > that it's a bug up my nether regions. Do you take all statements to > their extreme extension? In any event, when users use the stuff, report > back their issues things get fixed, things improve, it's the pattern of > open source. Of course are free to opt out by turning it off. > I don't want to tell a client that their system was compromised and that > one of the security mechanisms delivered with the system was shut off > because I didn't understand it. Craig, meet the usual suspects. If you cross their absolutist views on something, expect to be so engaged -- especially if you have any views that are even remotely associated with mine (which can be far worse at times, I fully admit ;-). Whomever originally suggested that a UT2004/Quake4 fragfest was a far better battlefield for this than the CentOS was dead-on! Until then, seek the appropriate enlightenment on the respective Fedora list when it comes to Red Hat defaults on specific technologies: http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/ My A64/7800GTX system is still waiting for a challenge! I normally don't have time to game, but I'm always game for a CentOS absolutist! -- Bryan J. Smith b.j.smith at ieee.org http://thebs413.blogspot.com ------------------------------------------------------------------- For everything else *COUGH*commercials*COUGH* there's "ManningCard"